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Tvättbjörn Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 1431 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: cleaning bolts + nuts from light rust |
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Hi,
I have to clean some bolts, washers + nuts from light rust! Is there any stuff out there (like solvent) who "eats" rust away? I saw once a guy at Pomona who sold it (takes about 24hrs to clean rust off). Like many times - address gone Any idea where I can get this solvent and how it is called??? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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tazbug Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2004 Posts: 122 Location: Frederick, Maryland 21702
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Try a wire wheel in your grinder. It removes the rust without damage. After you clean off the rust then run a tap in the nuts and a die on the bolts. This works great and it cleans all of the threads. _________________ Born in a state of confusion and been there every since. Moved to Frederick,Maryland and found life after death. |
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Kubel Nick Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2003 Posts: 1369 Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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I 2nd a tumbler |
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6d6vdub Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2003 Posts: 449 Location: Jacksonville, nc
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Ive had good results soaking nuts and bolts in a container with lime-away, clr. Any kind of calcium, lime and rust remover. How ever after you pull them out of the remover clean them real good with something like simple green. Something about that stuff will cause them to rust right back up.
I've taken some really rusted seat bolts that'd normally be tossed away and soaked them in penetrating oil a little then to the lime way and besides the pitting they look brand new. |
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highdesertdeluxe Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2002 Posts: 103 Location: L.A. @ 2665'above sea level
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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any one know if that stuff (lime-away) will eat my paint? i don't hava a showroom finish on my buses, but just wondered. i've been chasing my door hinge & gate hinge threads on the project sc shell with the tap & die and the previously 'tight' rusty screws turned in & bottomed out in their holes without much effort at all! worked so well, i'm now considering locktite red to keep 'em secure... _________________ Palmdale transplant
Looking for local splitty owners
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Tvättbjörn Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 1431 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks " coolin on air".
I just did your way. Works great Best way to get rid of rust on small pieces!! Since all threats are rolled - retaping not the best way to go |
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coolairX2 Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2003 Posts: 478
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject: Acid man is the way |
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Muritic acid that you can by at most any hardware store will eat all the rust including in the pits. An hour or two in a bucket with straight muritic acid and all the rust will be gone. Give them a stir once or twice. Keep them in an enclosed container as the fumes are not good to breath. I usually tumble them or wire brush them before coating them either with an eastwood cad plating or black passive coating systems.
-Craig |
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The Gnome Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Melbourne, FL
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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I say get a tumbler also. I think Eastwoods sells a kit that comes with the tumbler plus some of the different medias to use with it. I hope to get one soon.
Coolair, how do you like the eastwood black and cad coatings? Are they any good? |
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DaveM Mad Samba Scientist
Joined: June 11, 2002 Posts: 3010 Location: Dry side of Oregon
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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I like to take all hardware, soak it in carb cleaner for a week or so, drain it, rinse with water, and then spread it out to dry. I live in a dry climate so the moisture is usually gone before it has a chance to rust things more. I then use a wire wheel and continue to clean things up. I would note that the wheel I have is fairly soft as I can accidently stick my finger or hand into it while running with out damage... with some wheels, it would take your finger off.
I dont particularly like tumblers. They are great to remove burrs from freshly machined surfaces but I find it annoying to listen to the tumbler for hours on end. but that's my personal opinion. _________________ Sounding like a broken record as to why You should be measuring protein during harvest in order to better your agronomic practices.
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone like a challenge?
_________________ Glenn
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tazbug Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2004 Posts: 122 Location: Frederick, Maryland 21702
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Glenn, Did you have much trouble removing this dist. from the ocean bottom from the Titanic. _________________ Born in a state of confusion and been there every since. Moved to Frederick,Maryland and found life after death. |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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tazbug wrote: |
Glenn, Did you have much trouble removing this dist. from the ocean bottom from the Titanic. |
Actually, it cleaned up nice.
_________________ Glenn
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14576 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Is that really the same distriutor? |
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coolairX2 Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2003 Posts: 478
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: About Eastwoods kits |
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[quote="The Gnome"]I say get a tumbler also. I think Eastwoods sells a kit that comes with the tumbler plus some of the different medias to use with it. I hope to get one soon.
Coolair, how do you like the eastwood black and cad coatings? Are they any good?[/quote]
It replicates the color of the original bolts well. It is essentially a dye with a sealer coat. It seems fairly durable but nowhere near durable as having it professionally plated. The nice thing is you can go a good quantity of bolts at once where as with the cad plating kit you can only do one at a time.
I have no evidence that it will rust quickly yet as I have not yet driven my split in the elements. I don't trust the sealer so outside bolts get a coat of clear for extra protection.
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Look at the stains in the inside of the body... it's the same.
I do good work _________________ Glenn
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cruiser Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2003 Posts: 206
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Since we're talking Eastwood tumbers here, just thought I'd ask if anyone else who uses one has the same thing happen to them as I've experienced. As per instructions, I pour in the green media (look like tiny pyramids) add a bid of water and then my screws, nuts, washers, etc. I generally let them tumble for 4 to 5 hours. Once done, out come the pieces that then need to be rinsed off because they are covered with a greyish liquid film. I generally will use "brake clean" to rinse off the pieces (brake clean drys very fast and cleans oils/grease off). However, the nuts, screws, etc. once dry still are covered slightly with this greyish film - now in a powder-like state. The pieces need to be as clean as possible before I start black oxide dipping. So, after waiting all this time for the tumbler, I usually have to finish cleaning these off with the trusty wire wheel or blast cabinet. At times, I don't know about this tumbling thing. I guess Eastwoods item is nice in the fact that the blast cabinet can be too strong at times plus its hard to hold on to some of these tiny hardware fasteners while blasting. Same goes with the bench grinder -- you can sure "launch" items if not careful. Just some random thoughts on a slow day.... |
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Hophead Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2005 Posts: 940 Location: Chico,Ca
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I add a tablespoon or two TSP ( the real stuff not the "phosphate free" substitute) to the tub after I throw the hardware in. Just water will not cut the grease that is on your stuff that you cant see. It works great. For heavily soiled stuff I sometimes will change out the water after an hour or two and put in fresh tsp. I have not had any residue problems as long as I gave the parts a good rinse afterwords.
I worked in a shop that had giant sweco machines that were as big as jaccuzzis and the always ran a detergent to clean parts.
Eastwood is currently having a sale on their tumblers
www.eastwood.com |
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carmangary Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2004 Posts: 399 Location: Clemmons, NC
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I am assuming these are special nuts and bolts? If not, why not buy some new ones? |
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76760 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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carmangary wrote: |
I am assuming these are special nuts and bolts? If not, why not buy some new ones? |
Some hardware is unique.
Normally M8 bolts have a 13mm head, but early VW fender bolts are M8 with a double thick 14mm head and a point on the end.
Many screws and bolts also are not your standard type.
It's all about "restoring" and just replacing. _________________ Glenn
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