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Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:16 am

I am looking for some pictures of a complete saxomat transmission. All the parts incl converter and fluid holders and so on. The more the better. I am this weekend going to pick up one of these, and wants to make sure, that EVERYTHING is there.

The transmission comes from a Karman Ghia 69 and will be fittet on a Bettle 1300 from 72.

I am fairly green when it comes to all these parts. I build my first car last year. Actually it was also the first time I changed oil on a car.:) It is a Beetle from 69. Right now I am planing my second build. A Beetle from 72 with automatic transmission and maybe a roaster kit.:) Something like that anyway.

Thanks for the help.

Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:24 am

Hiya M,

We may be dealing with a semantics problem here..............

Saxomat is a term used to describe a mechanical semi-automatic transmission VW marketed (almost exclusively in Europe) in the early sixties. It is a precursor to the Automatic Stick Shift (AutoStick) transmission which made its debut in 1968.

The problem occurs because of how this term is used on the different sides of the Atlantic. Over in Europe, any VW semi-automatic transmission (be it AutoStick or Saxomat) is often referred to as a Saxomat.

Assuming that you are in Europe, can you be a bit more specific for the guys on this side of the pond? I'm guessing that you are actually referring to an AutoStick, but one can never tell when dealing with a car that's almost 40 years old.

Mike

1970 AS Bug

Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:45 am

A Saxomat is a regular 4 speed manual transaxle coupled to a electromagnetic clutch with a centrifical clutch used for idle. The Automatic stick shift (Autostick) is a 3 speed manual coupled to an electromatic clutch AND torque converter.
I thoght the Saxomat was discontinued in 1965 - 1966 ?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:17 am

I think you are right about the different names for it.

I am from Denmark, Europe, so I guess the correct name for it would be called autostick. It is the semi-automatic gearbox. The one where you still need to change gear, but dont have a clutch. It does have a converter (or is suppose to have it anyway).

I am not sure if the one I will be getting is 3 or 4 speed.

Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:37 am

Hiya M,

We are talking about the AutoStick.

Do know that the AutoStick does have both a torque converter AND a clutch. The vacuum/electrical operated shift system does away with the need for a clutch pedal.

All AutoSticks were three speed transmissions. Later (starting in 1973, I think) AutoSticks had a nuetral slot. Earlier ones did not.

For a good outline of what all is in an AutoStick system you need to get a copy of Robert Bentley's Official VW Service Manual. You can get one hot off the press from Amazon.com for about $30 US. It will not only outline the differing parts of the system, but will also give you the most complete information on servicing and maintaining that system.

Additionally, I would suggest that you point your browser at www.vwar.org which is the Volkswagen Automatic Registry - a good online source for AutoStick information.

Mike

1970 AS Bug

Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:54 pm

DrDarby wrote: A Saxomat is a regular 4 speed manual transaxle coupled to a electromagnetic clutch with a centrifical clutch used for idle. The Automatic stick shift (Autostick) is a 3 speed manual coupled to an electromatic clutch AND torque converter.
I thoght the Saxomat was discontinued in 1965 - 1966 ?

um no

theres a centrifugal roller weight starting clutch

and theres a regular clutch for gear shifting with a small
160mm clutch disc