TheSamba.com :: View topic - Wanting to put hydraulic clutch in a buggy

Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:30 am

Bought a buggy about a month ago dont know what kind it is but I was wanting to put a hydraulic clutch in it
Does anyone have pics of a hydraulic clutch assembly in their buggy just trying to get a feel for how I would have to install a set of hydraulic pedals (how much cutting)
Thanks Bryce

Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:15 am

I can tell you to reinforce the wall don't just bolt to the fiberglass as mine broke apart from the body after some time. what we did was cut a piece of steel out and tac to the frame head then bolt the cyclinder to it but other than that its great.

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:10 am

I decided to use hanging pedals in my manx buggy. here are some pictures to give you some ideas. I added a makeshift cowl, 1/4" plate welded in to support the pedals and the cylinders. I didn't like pedals off the floor, I wanted hanging pedals to make it feel more like a regular vehicle.

Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:25 am

cool deal on the hanging pedals thanks for the input
Bryce

Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:56 am

That sure is a bunch of work when you can buy a basically bolt in kit. Check out the link...... http://www.germanauto-saco.com/germanauto-saco/catalog/hydclutch.html

Jerry...

Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:07 am

lostinbaja wrote: That sure is a bunch of work when you can buy a basically bolt in kit. Check out the link...... http://www.germanauto-saco.com/germanauto-saco/catalog/hydclutch.html

Jerry...

That's true, but I hate that stock pedal assemblies are so close together I wanted to make it more comfortable to drive. Besides what fun is it if it's not custom! :lol:

Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:01 pm

I posted a series of pics in the Kit Car gallery on the installation of a Saco kit that uses the stock VW pedal cluster:

Several more photos with explanations. VW Kit Cars gallery.

Hope this is useful.

Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:00 am

vwdune234 wrote: lostinbaja wrote: That sure is a bunch of work when you can buy a basically bolt in kit. Check out the link...... http://www.germanauto-saco.com/germanauto-saco/catalog/hydclutch.html

Jerry...

That's true, but I hate that stock pedal assemblies are so close together I wanted to make it more comfortable to drive. Besides what fun is it if it's not custom! :lol:

I have size 13 feet and the pedal spacing seems OK to me :wink: .
I do have a friend that heated the clutch pedal and bent it away from the brake pedal...Just a thought.
Jerry....

Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:40 am

The stock cable is so simple and works so well.

How about getting the torch and do a little spreading???

Or maybe weld some tabs to the side of the clutch pad.

To much offset and you will be have a twisting action. I wouldn't mess with the brake. I have come over a hill at speed and hit my air brakes incredibly hard, wouldn't want to have it snap off when you need it most. :cry:

Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:59 am

EZGZ wrote: The stock cable is so simple and works so well.

How about getting the torch and do a little spreading???

Or maybe weld some tabs to the side of the clutch pad.

To much offset and you will be have a twisting action. I wouldn't mess with the brake. I have come over a hill at speed and hit my air brakes incredibly hard, wouldn't want to have it snap off when you need it most. :cry:

All that heating and bending I wouldn't feel safe messing with stock pedals so that is why I did what I did. Try something different and get all sorts of criticism! :lol:

Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:34 pm

vwdune234 wrote:
All that heating and bending I wouldn't feel safe messing with stock pedals so that is why I did what I did. Try something different and get all sorts of criticism! :lol:

No criticism here, all the new buggy builders are using hanging pedals....if that's what you want.....go for it and don't look back. :lol: :lol:

Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:29 pm

VWdune234
Don't take it personel, Your set up looks like a nice job.
I was just offering support for the simple and already there working option.

Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:51 pm

EZGZ wrote: VWdune234
Don't take it personel, Your set up looks like a nice job.
I was just offering support for the simple and already there working option.

I hear ya, looking back it might have been easier to go the other route, but I thought I woudl be different!

Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:32 am

I'm going with hanging pedals from Kugel Komponents for my Coyote.
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/products/brake_systems/brakesystem.html
You need to run a separate throttle pedal and I need room to the right of it to run the donut brake. ;)
Jeff

Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:42 pm

JiI wrote: I'm going with hanging pedals from Kugel Komponents for my Coyote.
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/products/brake_systems/brakesystem.html
You need to run a separate throttle pedal and I need room to the right of it to run the donut brake. ;)
Jeff

I like the master cylinder they use, looks like a good setup, just the 16" long pedals would probably be to long to mount in my car. Good luck! :D

Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:13 pm

I have a sand rail with a bug tranny I think well I'm converting the clutch from cable to hydraulic I bought the cnc pedal and Slave kit but here is the question how does it work I notice with the cable system when I push down on the pedal I notice it's pulls the clutch rod the sticks out of the tranny towards the front of the sand rail. So how would a slave work does when I push in the pedal does it pull the slave in towards the rear mount of the slave I'm really confused how it works[/img]

Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:27 pm

The hydraulic clutch slave cylinder pulls the lever, just the same as the cable does.

The slave cylinder has a piston inside which is pushed toward the front of the car by hydraulic pressure. There is a shaft which is attached to the center piston which goes back through the center of the cylinder and out through the cap on the rear of the cylinder. The shaft is sealed where it goes through the cap, but it moves in and out freely

The front end of the slave cylinder is mounted to the transmission case. The shaft that exits the center of the rear cap of the cylinder is attached to the throw out lever. When you push the pedal, the fluid enters the cylinder and pushes the piston toward the front of the car. The rod which connects the piston and the lever, pulls the lever forward.

This makes hydraulic clutch cylinders operate more smoothly with less side load. It requires removing some studs from the side cover of your trans and grinding off the pre-load tube rear anchor

http://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=6075

Also, to avoid confusion when discussing a VW its always a good idea to refer to the front of the car as forward. So when you stand behind the car and look at the engine, you are looking at the rear of the engine.

Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:30 pm

It pulls.