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Lowdown Dirty Rat Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:04 pm

Sorry to awake a sleeping thread but..
Any clearer info on these changes?

FRONT

Barndoor - All years?



Splitscreen




REARS

pre -52



52-67?



and how do these fit into the picture?


cheers

Lowdown Dirty Rat Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:29 am

Very nearly brought what I and the seller believed was a barndoor deluxe cab ashtray, only to be informed that it's not as simple as 'the ones with the pointy corners'.

Apparently there is a very similar ashtray that was made for the Rometsch? A rarer car but apparently the majority of ashtrays that are thought of as barndoor. The only differents is there is a slight curve to the lower lip of the edges. Barndoors should be straight.
Anyone else know of this?

RockStock Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:25 pm

So who has pics and/or more info on 51/early52 Barndoor Deluxe ashtrays?


Merlin Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:46 pm

EverettB wrote: As far as I know they are the same but I don't think a Barndoor would have a 211 part numbered part.

Bear with me, please...I'm still learning. ;)

Why would a BD ashtray not have a '211' part number, when (I believe) all 'later' BD parts would have been by default?

Capriacci Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:32 pm

RockStock wrote: So who has pics and/or more info on 51/early52 Barndoor Deluxe ashtrays?





from: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/2_53_microbus_german/3.jpg

EverettB Sat Mar 08, 2014 5:52 pm

Merlin wrote: EverettB wrote: As far as I know they are the same but I don't think a Barndoor would have a 211 part numbered part.

Bear with me, please...I'm still learning. ;)

Why would a BD ashtray not have a '211' part number, when (I believe) all 'later' BD parts would have been by default?

Sorry, that was confusing.

The early rear ash trays (58 and earlier?) have no part # on the back.

Merlin Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:59 pm

Aah, thanks Everett. :)

Lowdown Dirty Rat Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:48 am

My 51 deluxe has the same ashtray as in the 51 brochure.
The one pictured above must just be a taxi thing.

RockStock Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:05 am

The one I posted is on a 52 dlx
Looks like there might have been one of two versions installed
Or a second version installed for a short period

Lowdown Dirty Rat Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:03 pm

Woops! :oops: :oops: :oops: sorry Chris. Got my ashtrays mixed up. The one from my 51 deluxe is this one;


As you predicted. So adds wait to the 51 theory.

RockStock Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:00 pm

Lowdown Dirty Rat wrote: Very nearly brought what I and the seller believed was a barndoor deluxe cab ashtray, only to be informed that it's not as simple as 'the ones with the pointy corners'.

Apparently there is a very similar ashtray that was made for the Rometsch? A rarer car but apparently the majority of ashtrays that are thought of as barndoor. The only differents is there is a slight curve to the lower lip of the edges. Barndoors should be straight.
Anyone else know of this?










I don't think it's from a Rometsch.

Real Barndoor Deluxe ashtray:

EmpiGT Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:54 pm

Is that the one from the classifieds last week? it doesn't look like it fits the dash correctly. I emailed on the one last week and the guy said his offers were up to $800 so I wasn't bidding any more on it. If that's it I'm glad I didn't. Looks like it's made for a rounded dash in both directions..

Lazaa Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:58 am

The one for sale last week was not for barndoor but was the curved one.
It is not only used on rometsch but also on some Mercedes I think, so is easier to find.

I bought the top area of one for 50€ but even a complete one is not as expensive as a barndoor one.
You can be happy not to have bought the one at 800+ :lol:

Bergepanzer Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:24 am

Very interesting thread :-)

One additional question - The rectangular hole in the dashboard which holds the ashtray: Is it the very same on BD DLX dashes as well as on 55-67 buses?

With a dashboard like this I hope you forgive me that I really need to ask that question ... everything is crispy and rotted away ... especially all metal close to the middle windscreen pillar

52panelvan Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:02 am

Hi, no the hole is a different size for the ashtray. The later 55 on ones are slight bigger and do not fit in a barndoor deluxe dash. On the dash itself on a later bus you also have a recess each side for the spring clips to pass through which is not there on a barndoor dash.

Bergepanzer Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:43 am

Mark, that´s great. Thank you very much!

Pi2 Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:03 am

Helle,

This one was in my Jan 52 Deluxe






RockStock Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:11 am

Nice.
Please take similar pictures of both rear/cargo area ashtrays.

Pi2 Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:39 am

RockStock wrote: Nice.
Please take similar pictures of both rear/cargo area ashtrays.

Sorry. Unfortunately I don't have them... 😜

Lowdown Dirty Rat Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:38 pm

Nice. That's the 51 style ashtray. The mount is Deluxe dash only. The rear ashtray then slides in.



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