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61SNRF Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:47 am

Hi Nikos,

From reading through your posts it seems as if a lot of your interchange questions have already been answered regarding fenders, aprons and such.

Also looking at your project car it appears like most everything is there. Many people will tell you it's often better to restore and reuse the original German fenders than using reproduction parts.

As far as one single list I don't think there is one but if you can learn to decipher the parts catalog it will tell you which parts will fit different VIN ranges.
http://oacdp.org/type1part.html

Sorry I don't know the best place to buy sheet metal parts. In EU I'd think either CSP or BBT would be a good place to start shopping.

Leoniums Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:33 am

Are there any 67models, which have been manufactured late 66 and are 6v?
Cause i also found a car like this

67 Florida Deluxe Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:51 am

Leoniums wrote: Are there any 67models, which have been manufactured late 66 and are 6v?
Cause i also found a car like this

They were also manufactured in '67 with 6v. But not for the US market. As was already noted at the end of the last page, a number of plants manufactured VWs and there were notable differences. Deluxes, standards and customs. Non-US markets had varied requirements and different selections of models and equipment.

Leoniums Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:28 pm

Thanks again for the info and the for the atached links.
I hope you wont get mad... but i have to ask you...
Can a 66 shell with spesific shett metal replacemtns be same with a 67 model?
I have to ask cause the project car i own, is full of suprises, many accidents and a lot of rust, so i am not sure if i should continue or not. So i am also looking for alternatives, especially since i can find 66 shells in a good shape.
I am not sure though about my question and if its "right" to do something like that.

KTPhil Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:26 pm

Leoniums wrote: Thanks again for the info and the for the atached links.
I hope you wont get mad... but i have to ask you...
Can a 66 shell with spesific shett metal replacemtns be same with a 67 model?
I have to ask cause the project car i own, is full of suprises, many accidents and a lot of rust, so i am not sure if i should continue or not. So i am also looking for alternatives, especially since i can find 66 shells in a good shape.
I am not sure though about my question and if its "right" to do something like that.

Major body changes in '67 included the rear apron and decklid. Other changes were more subtle and substitutions could probably be made.

67 Florida Deluxe Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:56 pm

These may help. Read through them to assess differences in the model and also in different markets. They are all 1967s.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/67bug_1200.php

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/67_new1300s_australian.php

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/67_new1500.php


You will note that although the front fenders vary between the '66 style and the "new" '67 style without the glass dome, the updated decklid and rear apron were used across all the '67 Type 1 models. Therefore, the decklid from a '66 will not fit the '67 unless you also change the rear apron to the earlier style, too.

Now, having said all that and posted those reference links, a car that is this old could have had wrong parts put on it at some point for the sake of cost, convenience, or personal preference in the past. Unless you have a documented history of the car it's hard to know exactly. But you have plenty of reference info now to see what body components were offered in the various '67 T1 models. Hope that helps 8)

Leoniums Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:00 am

What i am thinking is to get (if i find a good one) 66 shell, change the deck lid, rear appron, and doors. My 67 car has the previous look fenders, so are same with a 66. I believe all the other things are the same.
Maybe i got more lucky like this.

61SNRF Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:10 am

Leoniums wrote: What i am thinking is to get (if i find a good one) 66 shell, change the deck lid, rear appron, and doors. My 67 car has the previous look fenders, so are same with a 66. I believe all the other things are the same.
Maybe i got more lucky like this.

Nikos,
'66 doors have completely different latches and don't think they can easily be converted.
'-'66

67-

'66 doors do not have a hole for the inside lock button either.

'66 doors will also have larger holes for the side trim.

67 Florida Deluxe Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:09 pm

Leoniums wrote: What i am thinking is to get (if i find a good one) 66 shell, change the deck lid, rear appron, and doors. My 67 car has the previous look fenders, so are same with a 66. I believe all the other things are the same.
Maybe i got more lucky like this.

Looking at your gallery photos, you have a '67 Deluxe. The front fenders are not correct for the Deluxe. At some point they were changed to the old style. Your steering wheel, dash trim, thin trim on the hood, thin side body trim molding, rear quarter window trim all denote Deluxe.

**Update**

In the same way that the 1967 VW Canadian Custom model that is unique to the Canadian market, there is a “1300 Deluxe” that is unique to Australia and they were built in the Australian plant. Interestingly, it still has the same doors, door handles, and door locks from ’66 and the same engine decklid and apron from ’66 (unlike all the Type 1 cars built in Germany got the updated style.) It has the fatter ’66 and older style trim on the body and hood. The wheels and hub caps are the old style, as well. It has the old style front fenders and is 6v. The decklid insignia is “1300” and underneath in script is “Deluxe.” It’s also right-hand drive. The US market dealerships got Type 1 Deluxes only, which had 12v electrics, updated front fenders, but still retained drum brakes up front. Of course, you could opt for hard top sedan, sunroof, or convertible, but only in the Deluxe guise.

After our behind the scenes chats and some more investigation on my part, I'm incorrect. You DON'T have a '67 Deluxe with swapped fenders. I believe yours is a typical 1967 Type 1 “1300” for the European market based on the trim moldings, air cleaner, and what I suspect is 6v electrics, or at least were originally. I bet your car has front disc brakes, too. That would fit squarely with the European Type 1. The old style front fenders are proper for that car and also the European 1200 and 1500. If it were a 1200, I don’t believe there would be any trim molding on the car, as that is the most basic model. A 1500cc engine has two air intake “shorkels.” Thus, the tin would require a hole on each side to accommodate the preheat tubes to the snorkels.

When you decide what you are going to do with it (or another one), start a new thread do show your progress. Your idea to build a "barn" and use it as a workshop is great. We love progress pics!



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