TheSamba.com :: View topic - NON VW "RARE" horn buttons and steering wheels

Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:38 pm

There are some people that believe these are VW, and there are others that take advantage of this and try to rip off uneducated VW enthusiasts, both on ebay and on this site.

The following pics are standard equipment on DKW, Amphicar, Borgward and Goliath Hansa cars, and are NOT made for any VW.

This is a DKW

This is a Borgward Isabella

This is a Goliath Hansa

This an Amphicar

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:03 pm

Even though it isn't original or correct for a VW, that is still a nice looking steering wheel on the Borgward.

farkengruven wrote: The following pics are standard equipment on DKW, Amphicar, Borgward and Goliath Hansa cars, and are NOT made for any VW.This is a Borgward Isabella

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:26 pm

coad wrote: Even though it isn't original or correct for a VW, that is still a nice looking steering wheel on the Borgward.

Yes it is nice.

Most of the standard equipment horn buttons from the 1950's had the coat of arms of the city or a landmark from where the cars were made. Some examples are.

DKW - Ingolstadt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingolstadt

Borgward and Hansa - Bremen http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/de-hb.html#coa

Porsche - Porsche which consists of the coat of arms of Württemberg and Stuttgart

Amphicar - Lubeck castle

VW - Wolfsburg castle

Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:39 pm

nice informative topic.

the bases off of the amphicar buttons are sure nice for putting a sundial button center onto a bus wheel.

Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:59 pm

Lind wrote: nice informative topic.

the bases off of the amphicar buttons are sure nice for putting a sundial button center onto a bus wheel.

Lind.....you need to sell me that sun and moon. :wink:

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:29 pm

Here are some scans from sales brochures showing steering wheels that some might say are VW, but are not:

If you click on the pics, they are shown a bit larger and clearer.

This is a Ford Taunus 12M 1955

This is a Goggomobil Coupe

This is a Borgward Isabella

This is a Gutbrod Superior. There were so many cars that had the 3 spoke steering wheel. BMW Isetta, Tempo Matador are a few more.
Does the rear view mirror/light look familiar?

This is a Glas 1204

Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:48 pm

53 0val wrote: Lind wrote: the bases off of the amphicar buttons are sure nice for putting a sundial button center onto a bus wheel. Lind.....you need to sell me that sun and moon. :wink:
which one? I have two. ;) I got the second one because a friend of mine noticed the one on my bus and called me up when he found one in a junkyard to ask if I wanted another one. sure makes me glad I didn't leave it on the parts display shelf.

(this photo shows it on a three-spoke bus wheel which uses the normal batwing style base) note how the sun is reflecting off of the sun.

Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:03 pm

farkengruven wrote: This is a Goggomobil Coupe

There's that very wheel on eBay right now being advertised as a Porsche Petri wheel with horn ring. :-k Fits straight unto a Pre '59 VW steering column too.

Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:21 pm

Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:34 pm

Gustav Petri wrote:

Maybe it's just the lighting, but the wheel looks a little "fat" at the ring. It has a more modern look IMO. (I like it thought. 8) )

Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:03 pm

RareAir wrote: farkengruven wrote: This is a Goggomobil Coupe

There's that very wheel on eBay right now being advertised as a Porsche Petri wheel with horn ring. :-k Fits straight unto a Pre '59 VW steering column too. This is not a joke Ive seen that wheel in a accessory catalog recently and it had that wheel and other vw accessories in it !! I cant find it now but I will! Check this early vert out what wheel is this it looks simular??

Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:19 pm

EMPIFLAKE wrote:

I didn't know Faris Bueler drove an oval vert.

Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:26 am

53 0val wrote: Gustav Petri wrote:

Maybe it's just the lighting, but the wheel looks a little "fat" at the ring. It has a more modern look IMO. (I like it thought. 8) )

Hello Bob

You could have mine if you want

Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:57 pm

Some are and some are not.

IN2VWS wrote: There are some people that believe these are VW, and there are others that take advantage of this and try to rip off uneducated VW enthusiasts, both on ebay and on this site.

The following pics are standard equipment on DKW, Amphicar, Borgward and Goliath Hansa cars, and are NOT made for any VW.

This is a DKW

This is a Borgward Isabella

This is a Goliath Hansa

This an Amphicar

Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:58 pm

Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:40 am

Damn, Game Over! That wheel is beautiful.
Yes, I agree, the catalogs were not always right, people would and could order what they wanted back in the day. All these strange crossover of parts inconsistent with catalogs etc. is also a source of ongoing discussions in Porsche stuff as well, options, seats, accessories, tools etc. etc. My old double ringed Petri in my fake Intermeccanica Speedster (correct horn button and mount not shown).

Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:14 am

Speedsterboy wrote: Damn, Game Over! That wheel is beautiful.
Yes, I agree, the catalogs were not always right, people would and could order what they wanted back in the day. All these strange crossover of parts inconsistent with catalogs etc. is also a source of ongoing discussions in Porsche stuff as well, options, seats, accessories, tools etc. etc. My old double ringed Petri in my fake Intermeccanica Speedster (correct horn button and mount not shown).

Isn't this steering wheel supposed to have three lights around the horn button? Mine does

Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:53 am

Yes it does, if you notice I noted it that I didn't have it on my wheel. Your wheel is in incredible condition. The best I have ever seen. I don't think I have seen more than 5 of this wheels worldwide. Unfortunately mine was crusty and didn't want to risk it at the time from further deterioration by exposing it to the harsh Australian sun and given its extreme rarity.