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Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:09 am

I bought what I was told was an NOS engine compartment seal. It is an engine compartment seal, but what is it for? I've never seen anything like this before

It's composed of two matching pieces, which overlap in the middle.

The dimensions are correct for my engine compartment.

This is for my '56 ghia, but the ghia guys didn't know.

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:41 pm

Hi Thom,
VERY COOL.
If we are reading the part number correctly that is 111 813 707. Which is described in the 1960s parts manual as "Weatherstrip - Engine cover plate, rear (larger lips).

Boy, wish someone would repro those!

Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:49 pm

In my umpteen years of VW's, I've never seen one of these.

What's the point of the bigger lips? Is this some sort of Angelina Joliet seal?

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:25 pm

Hi Thom,
Just better sealing.
The next step up was metal frameworks that bolted to the body, and engine tin. Between the body and engine tin was rubber seal that was anchored by the frameworks.

Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:52 pm

thom wrote: What's the point of the bigger lips? Is this some sort of Angelina Joliet seal?

More of a Steven Tyler lip seal :wink:

Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:54 pm

RareAir wrote: thom wrote: What's the point of the bigger lips? Is this some sort of Angelina Joliet seal?

More of a Steven Tyler lip seal :wink:
You've got your fantasies, I've got mine, everybody's happy, right?

Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:10 pm

thom wrote: RareAir wrote: thom wrote: What's the point of the bigger lips? Is this some sort of Angelina Joliet seal?

More of a Steven Tyler lip seal
You've got your fantasies, I've got mine, everybody's happy, right?

Then you may want to spell your fantasy girl's name correctly. :wink:

Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:10 pm

Here it is installed

Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:04 am

Thanks for the excellent photos.

I wonder... your photo of it installed... could it be a 'service fix" seal, for installing a later, non-H apron onto a '60 and earlier Beetle which still has a 36hp engine? The later apron, being lower, positions the sealing rubber slightly further rearward, so that there would be an open gap between the stock rubber seal and the 36hp rear breastplate. Such a seal would bridge that gap. If VW discontinued stocking the "H" rear apron and only offered the later style, this big lip seal could very well be the solution to keep the engine compartment cooling.

I also have never seen one like this. At first I thought it was an early Bus seal since those had removable rear aprons, but then the p/n would've started with 211 or so.

Sat May 30, 2015 10:48 pm

Digging up this old post.

Does anyone else have thoughts on what this seal is? I have the very same seal here,it has the Triangular FISCO logo like alot of the other earlier seals.

Is it split bus designed to make it easier with the removeable rear apron??

Love to know more.

Sat May 30, 2015 11:06 pm

My quess: if placed a later rear apron for a car with 25/36hp engine, then there is a bigger cap between engine and apron.

Sun May 31, 2015 6:43 am

Or perhaps it superceded the longer rear tin used for Standard Beetles.

Sun May 31, 2015 9:19 pm

Not sure but the part number features in both the Type 1 Beetle and Type 2 Bus parts books.

Remains a mystery, would be interesting to see how Thom's engine fitted in and if he retained 36hp etc.