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David Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:12 pm

The Split Forum needs a 'whiner' thread...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=404822

Hebmuller - 20,000
For sale in Uruguay, using a 1951 split window beetle as a donor car , all steel construction, Leather seats and door panels, original 1100 CC engine and gear box , all instruments and glass.







I just don't understand...

aka pip Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:15 am

If that car was in the states... I'd buy it... 8) Not a bad price in my book....

Val1950 Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:05 am

V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote:
I just don't understand...

It's a Hebmüller replica based on a split beetle.
What is it that you don't understand?

:? :roll:

Undis Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:24 am

...and judging by the pictures, it looks very well done. I would roll that! (if I had that kind of money to spend)

r39o Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:13 am

What's to whine about?

From the outside it looks like it should. Now you just have to add the rest of the parts. The top will be a challenge with out a real one to copy. But, aside from that, the rest is doable. I liken it to rebuilding a Rometsch (sp?) If you know where to source the parts, you can finish it up nicely.

So why does anyone need to whine about this????

David Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:20 pm

Val1950 wrote: V0LKSWAGENSRULE wrote:
I just don't understand...

It's a Hebmüller replica based on a split beetle.
What is it that you don't understand?

:? :roll:

The price...

r39o wrote: What's to whine about?

From the outside it looks like it should. Now you just have to add the rest of the parts. The top will be a challenge with out a real one to copy. But, aside from that, the rest is doable. I liken it to rebuilding a Rometsch (sp?) If you know where to source the parts, you can finish it up nicely.

So why does anyone need to whine about this????

The price...

I don't see paying $20,000 for a *fake* Hebmuller, regardless of how correct it looks.
That and I thought we should have an Official 'whiner' thread like the other fora-

r39o Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:02 pm

I see your are from the North. That explains a LOT.

Nobody said owning old cars was cheap. Or frugal as the ones say where you come from. Just add it up a bit:

$1000 donor roller
$1000 basic paint
$17,500 for 500 hours (about 3 months) of work at only $35 per hour

Aside from some dank place in Asia, you ain't gonna get it done for less. Even if you did it yourself, it is going to several months. What's your time worth?

I don't care if it is recreated. It is still a lot of work. Whether you start with a damaged original or add new Heb specific parts to a donor like they orignally did. You just ain't gonna get it done for much less.

If you can show me where you can, then I might have them beat me another rare car out, just as well.

Sorry for the rant, but if you want good you are going to have to pay.

(PS: I just am beginning to get an idea of what it is going to take to get the 1945 I am looking into to the state similar to as shown in the picture. If I could only spend $20K to get it into paint, I will be happy.)

splitpartsunlimited Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:04 pm

i do always see the same array of pics ....i would like to know how many he built ...too bad he does not return any email.....that`s not the way to sell a 20k vehicle ...

too bad he coach built a heb , but he`s trying to sell it without the top ....

whenever i have the chance i ask my uruguayan friends about him , but nobody knows anything about it ....

twinwindows Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:32 pm

You know what would suck, If that heb really is real and the owner just has some bad info on it. :?:

aka pip Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:30 pm

Libreriajenny wrote: i do always see the same array of pics ....i would like to know how many he built ...too bad he does not return any email.....that`s not the way to sell a 20k vehicle ...

too bad he coach built a heb , but he`s trying to sell it without the top ....

whenever i have the chance i ask my uruguayan friends about him , but nobody knows anything about it ....

I'm with ya .. Nobody knows shit about him.... I've sent him emails... And received, vag replys...... He's no salesman......Fo'Sho
http://abarth356.myphotoalbum.com/view_album.php?set_albumName=album10&page=4

splitpartsunlimited Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:01 pm

judging by the pics , it seems that it is a replica indeed ,maybe he used the windshield frame from a pre 58 cabrio and the body from a split ...

what i certainly will never know , is how many did he build ...

sent him several emails because since i am living just 150 miles away from him i could buy one of them ...never a valid response ....

also , why he never manufactured a top ?? with his skills , a top would have been a piece of cake .......

johnshenry Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:18 pm

r39o wrote: I see your are from the North. That explains a LOT.

I see you think Virginia is in the "north". THAT explains a LOT......... :roll:

David Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:16 pm

r39o wrote: I see your are from the North. That explains a LOT.

Nobody said owning old cars was cheap. Or frugal as the ones say where you come from. Just add it up a bit:

$1000 donor roller
$1000 basic paint
$17,500 for 500 hours (about 3 months) of work at only $35 per hour

Aside from some dank place in Asia, you ain't gonna get it done for less. Even if you did it yourself, it is going to several months. What's your time worth?

I don't care if it is recreated. It is still a lot of work. Whether you start with a damaged original or add new Heb specific parts to a donor like they orignally did. You just ain't gonna get it done for much less.

If you can show me where you can, then I might have them beat me another rare car out, just as well.

Sorry for the rant, but if you want good you are going to have to pay.

(PS: I just am beginning to get an idea of what it is going to take to get the 1945 I am looking into to the state similar to as shown in the picture. If I could only spend $20K to get it into paint, I will be happy.)

If you mean Virginia, it's not the North - the Mason-Dixon line is technically the Upper border of Maryland/Pennsylvania.
That explains THAT.

If you mean where I was born, I am from the Northern part of Great Britain, yes. But I am not frugal in my pursuits of my VWs (see sig). I pay what I pay for my cars, parts, etc...

I can see your point on the labor (or labour where I come from). However, $20,000 for a COPY of a Heb is not in my eyes a price I would pay. I'll pay for good - but I don't think this is 'good'.

... this thread was meant to apply the thought of - 'what are these sellers thinking', not what I'm willing to pay for <insert car/car part here>.

Good luck w/ your '45. I hope it comes out just the way you imagine it.

johnshenry Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:42 am

[expensive] waffles anyone??

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=437472

yachtybugger Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:31 pm

I hope mine turns out like that and for only 20K US :shock:

Thats about 11k GBP at the moment and its based on a real split. OK, You could say he could have restored the split instead of chopping it up but lets face it, I´m assuming he's saved another Vdub from the wreckers and he's done nothing different than the Heb factory did to an OG split body to make an OG Heb imho :D

So, has this guy made more than 1?

splitpartsunlimited Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:08 pm

WHY WHINE AT THIS REPRO AND NOT WHINE ABOUT THIS ??

JUST A COWL AND A REAR HOOD FOR JUST ALMOST 7K

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=243537

TOO BAD THE URUGUAYAN DOES NOT MANUFACTURE A TOP ....

passoa55 Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:28 pm

They are making now the correct hoodframe in Germany.
Ask Peter Fried from Veterananendienst in Germany.

yachtybugger Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:53 pm

Libreriajenny wrote: WHY WHINE AT THIS REPRO AND NOT WHINE ABOUT THIS ??

JUST A COWL AND A REAR HOOD FOR JUST ALMOST 7K

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=243537

TOO BAD THE URUGUAYAN DOES NOT MANUFACTURE A TOP ....

Why whine at all :roll:

Lifes too short :D

Wiggy Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:32 pm

Nuff said.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=443278

vdubinit Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:45 pm

I'm always causus (?) when I see pics of a car for sale when all of the pics are from a car show ?

That could be anyone advertiseing a split for sale and not even be the owner


Whats with the chrome piece on those fender skirts ? aftermarket?



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