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Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:57 pm

hazetguy wrote: mike spadafora wrote: I will go out and take a look at my bus ( 2/56) in the next few days and see what weird things I notice . Mine has the round seal on the gas door, , six leg middle seat - but later floor mat, early steering gear, early decklid , early battery tray, and a strange mix of window glass with early and later logos . narrow front bumper license plate area, 4 part doglegs, later vent screen .

what's your vin? ( i feel like i asked you this before, but...)
what makes the steering gear "early"?
what makes the battery tray "early"?
got pics? i'd like to compare to my 2/56/

my 2/56 has all glass logos the same, and i am pretty darn certain they are all original to the bus:

and even the dots are all the same except for the front slider windows (which match eachother, dot under the S rather than the E), and the rear glass which has no dots.

My chassies# 162436(That makes it january)
It has the round top wing latch tabs,
if you look at the battery tray it is one piece of tin along with the piece that holds the rubber engine seal . On later busses it is two seprate pieces.
The window glass is weird ... The side glass ( all door and pop outs) too) have the same logo you posted but the sky lights, corner glass and back door glass have the early two line marking as a 55 would have .
My wing nut air cleaner has three radial indentations outside the center circle... is this correct?

Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:31 am

mike it looks like we have a very close match
162 320 jan 17th 1956
i always wondered how close your bus was to mine...

mine has a mcode for a wood burning stove .see the hole for the pipe in the roof.

Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:23 am

gatorwyatt wrote:

mike it looks like we have a very close match
162 320 jan 17th 1956
i always wondered how close your bus was to mine...

mine has a mcode for a wood burning stove .see the hole for the pipe in the roof.

what is your body#?( the number on the front of the bulk head?)
do you still have the orignal motor ?

mine came with a factory installed ambulabnce step as well
Did yours have any orignal options?
Dours looks like an american spec bus too ... where was it sold? found? how complete is it? It is amazing that both of these survived .... likely they were comming down the line very near each other ... when you consider how few sambas were produced in '56 they may have been consecutive cars . Mine was sold new through a dealership in Coose Bay, Or , ...Five Star Motors.

Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:28 pm

since gatorwyatts deluxe is resting in my shop ill spit out the body number.he will have to answer the rest of your questions..

body number 154892

Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:09 pm

thank you mark...

my mcodes are
m 020 mph speedomter
m 090 laminated windscreen glass
m 114 six opening side windows
m 018 and m 086 cannot be identified

destination was st louis
i was told the bus was owned by a newspaper company out of colorado.the owner lives in colorado and left it micanopy wich is the town just south of gainesville florida.i bought it in 94 or 95.it is almost all there i am missing only a few things.i have a complete and corresct interior ,rear mat nice 6 leg and incorrect rear seat but the right color.
i do not have the original motor but the okrasa motor in my kombi is stamped for the bus with the right numbers off the birth cert.

it has the five dimples for the overhead vent
six leg middle seat
tubular trans support carrier
lipped overhead with small screen
two position rear hatch
one peice battery trays
complete seal around gas door
three peice doglegs
wolfsburg frt beam
it had metal interior lights when i got but cant be sure if it is corect
round pedal felt holders
i sold the decklid because i found an nos one back in the late ninties so i cant recall what it had but im sure it was the four piece.the nos is not.
it had a barndoor frt bumper but it was shit until i gave it to beaterbarndoor and he waved his wand.now it is nice
all the glass is matching large sekurit

Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:11 pm

Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:13 pm

Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:15 pm

gatorwyatt wrote:
it had metal interior lights when i got but cant be sure if it is corect

My October '55 bus had aluminum domelights originally. I'm certain they are correct.

Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:18 pm

i just knew we would get to the bottom of that.

Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:24 am

gatorwyatt wrote: i just knew we would get to the bottom of that.

If you need to sell the Kombi to fund this project - just let me know!

Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:03 pm

thanks derv but i will pass...the 911 will go before the kombi.

Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:27 pm

Here's a 55 deluxe completely original. vin#20141121 It has 48,278 original miles. I know nothing has been changed on this bus. I have not looked at a lot of the changes you have mentioned on non-barndoors but if there is anything you need a picture of let me know. Maybe this can answer some of the questions.

I have one question, what would be the correct front and rear bumper for this bus? I do have the front but I don't know if it's correct. I will post a picture.
Thanks

Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:54 pm

rear is a regular bus pressed bumper painted red with trim and the frt is a pressed bumper also painted red with a smaller distance between the pressing for a licsense plate.

Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:30 pm

My '55 Palm Green Sand Green Standard turned 52 today!
vin 20-124 491
built on 15.04.55
Gonna post some Wolfsburgs features soon

Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:54 pm

malik wrote:

Here's a 55 deluxe completely original. vin#20141121 It has 48,278 original miles. I know nothing has been changed on this bus. I have not looked at a lot of the changes you have mentioned on non-barndoors but if there is anything you need a picture of let me know. Maybe this can answer some of the questions.

I have one question, what would be the correct front and rear bumper for this bus? I do have the front but I don't know if it's correct. I will post a picture.
Thanks

nice bus!!
I am curious about the paint on the rims... were they painted black with only the faces painted chesnut brown or is the whole rim chesnut brown?
also
what does the horn button look like?

Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:30 pm

1955 PGSG Born on April 15 1955 (vin 20-124 491)

Features:
Long Ribbed Front Bumper
Early Beam?
Seamed Doglegs
Big Screen Fresh Air Vent
Large SEKURIT Glass except Fronts used to be Delog?
Domed Vent Latches
5 Dimples on Overhead Vent Flap
Bakelite Domelights
Little Brackets on top of Shocks
Semaphores
6 Leg Middle Seat
Early Back Seat
Tubular Trans Hanger
One Positon Rear Hatch
Fat Round Mirror Base (Not sure what year's correct for)
4 Piece Decklid
One Piece Battery Tray
Round Rubber Gas Filler Gasket

That's all I can think of right know. If I missed something, or if someone
want's pics of something let me know.
Thanks

Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:39 pm

ole36er,
very nice bus.nice detailed shots.any of the engine detailed shots?

maybe someone could give the mirror arm shots of a wolsfurg bus...i believe they are a little different too?

Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:44 pm

Thank You,
My camera died today before I could take all the pics I wanted.
I'll post some tomorrow. I think there is some early stuff on the engine like fuel pump, round regulator, etc.. I think I have the wrong Oil Bath Aircleaner. I'll post

Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:53 pm

Now that I`ve been watching this post. I have a 59 panel in the backyard that I`m hoping to get to this year. Just a few things that I have learned that are not like my 65 sc are body parts. Rear wheelwells which have been cut and doglegs still good. It still has the 36hp engine and crankstart and I think that was the last year for that. And I`ve been told the shifter is closer to the seat. A 59 maybe to new for this post but this 59 is all new to me. Is there anything else that I should know about? Brakes ect.

Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:33 pm

One more thing. You guys know your shit when it come`s to VW.