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Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:33 am

anybody know the part number for 54 driver and pasanger door handle??
can I use other handle from later bus or bug?? which type or year??
Thanks.

Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:29 pm

I think they are the same to 55, then 55-59 I think they got a little ridge put in them if I remember correctly.

Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:34 pm

Hi Surfindo, yes, 55-59 is different, but they will fit on your bus, I know several people have them on their barndoor busses... when you grab these handles, you'll feel the difference on the inside: they feel much thicker on the inside of the handle itself, later models are not that thick or heavy... I can't give you the exact 211-.... numbers now, the only bus handle I could find here at home, is a very early one I believe, it's a L-211.052 from HUF which also shows the old KDF logo instead of a regular VW... but it came of a Barndoor... I checked the barndoor.dk also, in the 'details and changes', but there where no numbers, sorry!! I'll try to make a picture of that old handle and post it later this week, ok?

Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:07 pm

....sorry for the poor photo quality !! the handle above is a later one, 55-59, under it the old one with KDF logo, from a very early barndoor, this just to show you the difference in thickness of the handle itself...

Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:50 am

Hi ambu55&yustrn Thanks for all the info!
I know its not easy to find 55-59 but maybe lot easier than the real BD handles.
from what year this #211 837 201??

thanks.

Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:52 pm

surfindo wrote: Hi ambu55&yustrn Thanks for all the info!
I know its not easy to find 55-59 but maybe lot easier than the real BD handles.
from what year this #211 837 201??

thanks. I've got a kdf handle with the number 211 051 what would that go to a type1 I thought?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:11 pm

thebucket wrote: I've got a kdf handle with the number 211 051 what would that go to a type1 I thought?

Hi 'thebucket' , my KDF handle is 211 052, it's driver's side, so with key, is yours passengerside maybe?? that might be the difference... and yes, they where on early type 1's, but I was told they also came on very early barndoors...? at least, the handle I've got, came from an early '51... also, I believe the KDF handles on type & beetles, where on standards, so not chromed... is that true or...?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:27 pm

ambu55 wrote: thebucket wrote: I've got a kdf handle with the number 211 051 what would that go to a type1 I thought?

Hi 'thebucket' , my KDF handle is 211 052, it's driver's side, so with key, is yours passengerside maybe?? that might be the difference... and yes, they where on early type 1's, but I was told they also came on very early barndoors...? at least, the handle I've got, came from an early '51... also, I believe the KDF handles on type & beetles, where on standards, so not chromed... is that true or...? The guy I bought mine from said it was nos but he had it chromed, but never installed it? Passenger handle too.

Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:34 pm

hi "thebucket", yes, that's what I tought, yours is passengers side, pair numbers in the end ...052 should be driver's side, odd numbers, like your ....051 is passenger... and, yes, you say yours was chromed once, so it was for a standard beetle... busses never had unchromed ones as far as I know...

Surfindo, I hope you'll find the correct ones for a 54, I can't find the correct numbers, someone else maybe...?

Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:36 pm

ambu55 wrote: hi "thebucket", yes, that's what I tought, yours is passengers side, pair numbers in the end ...052 should be driver's side, odd numbers, like your ....051 is passenger... and, yes, you say yours was chromed once, so it was for a standard beetle... busses never had unchromed ones as far as I know...

Surfindo, I hope you'll find the correct ones for a 54, I can't find the correct numbers, someone else maybe...?
I put wanted add so hope I get some response soon
Thanks

Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:15 pm

surfindo wrote: ambu55 wrote: hi "thebucket", yes, that's what I tought, yours is passengers side, pair numbers in the end ...052 should be driver's side, odd numbers, like your ....051 is passenger... and, yes, you say yours was chromed once, so it was for a standard beetle... busses never had unchromed ones as far as I know...

Surfindo, I hope you'll find the correct ones for a 54, I can't find the correct numbers, someone else maybe...?
I put wanted add so hope I get some response soon
Thanks Whats it worth?

Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:06 pm

thebucket wrote: Whats it worth?

...I suppose you mean that KDF style handle?? No idea in fact... I got mine for free, but I saw one in Camberg too... that was 80 euro, in good condition, still unchromed...

Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:42 am

the key for 54 is the same through 63.
through 53 there is a smaller key. I am not sure exactly when the change was, actually. But you can compare with your rear hatch and cargo door locks. It is not the same as the ig key.

The ridged handle is beetle. the bd one is cruder on the inside than the 55-later ones. Through ~53 they used the earlier style partnumbers, 54- on the later... dunno exactly when that changed either, could be when they changed the key

Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:35 pm

Not to open a new thread I'll ask this here.
I bought this pair this week and was wondering if they are early BD handles?

Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:42 pm

I posted some info here
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264689&highlight=handle

I'm still looking for locking handle myself

Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:46 pm

hi Hebster, I've got the same one, same number, also with KDF logo, but it came from a '51 barndoor bus... if you need them for an early bus, I think you found the good ones! ...try them first :D G.

Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:49 pm

Rusting Hulk wrote: I posted some info here
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=264689&highlight=handle

I'm still looking for locking handle myself

Hello!! I saw your Topic a long time ago, and yes, it's hard the tell what's correct, you wrote: '...There are also handles with the number L-211-051/52 these handle are usually sold as Split Beetle handles and are Huf and have a Huf lock and key. '

well, yes, many people think they're fro split beetle... I'm not so sure, never had a split beetle, only early busses, and I saw them more then once on busses! ...but we'll never be 100% sure I guess!!

Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:19 pm

Etah Pravdah Tovarish! Those are 50-51 Bus, but also early beetle? I think, cuz of the KDF logo?? I found a few set's while in Plook, Poland. During the Invasion of the 3rd Panzer Division.

Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:53 am

Barndoor Mafia wrote: Etah Pravdah Tovarish! Those are 50-51 Bus, but also early beetle? I think, cuz of the KDF logo?? I found a few set's while in Plook, Poland. During the Invasion of the 3rd Panzer Division.

Vanya !!! ...not sure of beetle, never had an early beetle, my oldest beetle was a 57 oval... hey Tovarish, latest news: tomorrow morning, we'll fly to CCCP !!! really!! to Volgograd, old Stalingrad, as you might remember from the good old days, many many many soldiers got killed there those days, I'll try to find some more KDF parts over there, ok?? some large 16 inch'ers from KDF will look different then other earlies, no?? you know what I mean, right? so hope to see you later in Europe, at least, when we get back alive from CCCP!! Paka!... G.