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58herbie Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:48 am

hi,

anybody help please what dizzy should my engine be running, at the mo somebody has fitted a 050 but having trouble timing this thing and sure these are best for vw's..

engine is a 1968 616/39 912 engine running weber 40idf's

thanks

jon.

steveAZ Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:59 am

022 or 061. Not sure which was stock on '68's.

Try this link and search for distributors. in the technical forum.

http://www.912bbs.org/

TJC Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:21 pm

Stock for a '68 would be the 061. Is your 050 German or Brazilian, and what is your timing problem?

mpribanic Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:05 pm

I'm running a 009 in my 1968 912 engine.

May not be correct but runs good.

58herbie Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:32 pm

hi,

its a brazilian 050 and the problem is i just can't time it, timing mark jumps around all over the place when trying to time it, and engine has slight back fire on idle and runs very hot.

TJC Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:07 pm

That dizzy is junk! Very poor quality.
Try to find a German 050 or 031. A 009 can be used, but the advance curve isn't the greatest for your engine.
In any event, be sure to check total advance with a light with whatever you end up using.

Glenn Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:50 pm

mpribanic wrote: I'm running a 009 in my 1968 912 engine.
Big mistake.

For a 356 it's best to run the original cast iron distributors like the VJR4BR18 or the 0 321 129 022. They are both identical, its just that Bosch changed the parts numbering in the early 60's.

mpribanic Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:53 pm

Glenn wrote: mpribanic wrote: I'm running a 009 in my 1968 912 engine.
Big mistake.

For a 356 it's best to run the original cast iron distributors like the VJR4BR18 or the 0 321 129 022. They are both identical, its just that Bosch changed the parts numbering in the early 60's.

Why is it a big mistake?

I've put thousands of trouble free miles on the 009.

I'm no distributor expert, I just know my 009 has worked well for over 20,000 miles.

58herbie Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:54 pm

ok now a wanted add for a 031 or german 050 dizzy

thanks

jon

Glenn Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:41 pm

mpribanic wrote: Glenn wrote: mpribanic wrote: I'm running a 009 in my 1968 912 engine.
Big mistake.

For a 356 it's best to run the original cast iron distributors like the VJR4BR18 or the 0 321 129 022. They are both identical, its just that Bosch changed the parts numbering in the early 60's.

Why is it a big mistake?

I've put thousands of trouble free miles on the 009.

I'm no distributor expert, I just know my 009 has worked well for over 20,000 miles.
The 009 was designed for a VW Type 1 engine, not a Porsche engine.

The 009 has 20 degrees @ 3500
The 022/BR18 has 22 degrees at 2000

Put the correct one in and you'll a ton more torque off the line.

I've restored/sold quite a number of them to Porsche owners that were replacing a 009 and they all were amazed at the improvement.

Would you put a Ford distributor on a Chevy?

mpribanic Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:32 pm

Glenn wrote: mpribanic wrote: Glenn wrote: mpribanic wrote: I'm running a 009 in my 1968 912 engine.
Big mistake.

For a 356 it's best to run the original cast iron distributors like the VJR4BR18 or the 0 321 129 022. They are both identical, its just that Bosch changed the parts numbering in the early 60's.

Why is it a big mistake?

I've put thousands of trouble free miles on the 009.

I'm no distributor expert, I just know my 009 has worked well for over 20,000 miles.
The 009 was designed for a VW Type 1 engine, not a Porsche engine.

The 009 has 20 degrees @ 3500
The 022/BR18 has 22 degrees at 2000

Put the correct one in and you'll a ton more torque off the line.

I've restored/sold quite a number of them to Porsche owners that were replacing a 009 and they all were amazed at the improvement.

Would you put a Ford distributor on a Chevy?

OK, I see your point.

Bruce Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:30 am

Glenn wrote: ....
The 009 has 20 degrees @ 3500
The 022/BR18 has 22 degrees at 2000

All of the 009s I have tested were at full advance at 2500 rpm. Never seen one that slow.

Cptn. Calzone Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:41 pm

I have a 67 912 and HAD a good 009, ... but found a 031, had it rebushed/rebuilt by gearhead in calif.. and ...BRAAPP!! Viva La Difference.Runs much better with the 031 Calzone

58herbie Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:28 pm

Dragging this up again, which is the correct dizzy, and that will work. had a brazilian 050 originally on engine, but timing jumped all over, found a good 031 rock steady advance now but back firing up through carbs. do i have to adjust plug leads to match 031??? as rotor does not sit at 90 degrees( 3 o'clock) to the case when at tdc more like 4 oclock.(fan housing being 12 0'clock)

many thanks

Jon

Cptn. Calzone Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:20 pm

Get the 031 to work correctly, you will be pleased. Make sure to have a new cap and rotor,wires,time accordingly.

58herbie Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:28 pm

i will try it again, do the wires stay in the original position or do they have to move??

does it time at 3 Before TDC?? or time it to best possition?

thanks

Jon



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