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Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:13 pm

There is TWO kinds
of the Beauty Rings (EARLY TYPE)

Original EARLY Type 3 is Thin

NOT that DEEP around the edge

show ALL your Beauty Rings
you will SEE what I'm talking about

Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:21 pm

My 69 came with beauty rings, but they were T-1's. So I took them off.
I woon a set of used T-34 rings on Ebay, but the seller wanted cash. Like a dummy, I sent cash and never got the rings.
So, I am still looking for T-3 rings.

Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:29 pm

What's the difference between Beetle and Type 3 rings? I thought all 4-lug rings were the same.

Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:32 pm

if I remember correctly, it's the slots that are different...

Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:34 pm

EverettB wrote: What's the difference between Beetle and Type 3 rings? I thought all 4-lug rings were the same.

YES the 4 lugs Beauty Rings those are the SAME

BUT the early type 3 (8 slots ) like picture above
they are two different set ups

Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:50 pm

No, they are not. There is a difference due to the wheel offset. 46mm vs 34mm.
T-1 rings on T-3 wheels will not tuck in tight to the rim.

Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:27 pm

trim ring 1-set purchased from pedro

Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:28 pm

trim ring 2-another NOS set,different slots.forgot where I got these,oz maybe.

Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:30 pm

side by side comparison.see the difference,even in the valve stem hole.

Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:56 pm

Russ Wolfe wrote: No, they are not. There is a difference due to the wheel offset. 46mm vs 34mm.
T-1 rings on T-3 wheels will not tuck in tight to the rim.
Thanks.

Wow, I must have gotten lucky on my '67. I bought a couple replacement trim rings at a a swap meet and they matched the originals perfectly.

Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:00 am

Russ Wolfe wrote: No, they are not. There is a difference due to the wheel offset. 46mm vs 34mm.
T-1 rings on T-3 wheels will not tuck in tight to the rim.

yep--thank you for reminding me, Russ; I bent the hell out of a repop trim ring trying to get it to fit a Type 1 wheel a couple of years ago...

BTW, guys, the repopped trim rings from MidAmerica are really thin metal!

Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:33 pm

Does anyone have a picture of the later style T3 rings next to the T1 rings? curious to see the difference as I am looking for a set as we speak

Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:41 pm

The offset is the main difference.
T-1's are a flatter wheel. The T-1 trim ring will not lay against the wheel right.

Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:45 pm

How you tell is the valve stem hole. See how Pedro's have a slot? This is due to the larger offset, where as type one has a round hole.

Anyone know of a shop that does anodizing? Just an idea I have had... :wink:

Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:13 pm

I have some aftermarket. I need to check and see if they are type3. If they are I'll let them go.

Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:18 pm

:?: Anyone try these? They advertise that they fit TYPE3 wheels :!:

Just wondering; :?:

http://www.eisparts.com/EIS-3504.html

Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:29 pm

MOCHABILL wrote: :?: Anyone try these? They advertise that they fit TYPE3 wheels :!:

Just wondering; :?:

http://www.eisparts.com/EIS-3504.html

I like those. I'm also interested in finding out if these will indeed work.

Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:47 pm

Those are not offset dependent.

Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:54 am

Due to the offset difference, when T3 rings are placed on T1 beetle rims the centre of the trims doesn't seat on the metal but is 12mm above the centre seat of the rim ( so you can't fit the hubcaps).

Beetle rings conversely sit 12mm out from the outer rim edge when placed on type 3 rims ( but the hubcaps will fit).

An easy way to check: Looking at Type 3 rings from the side the centre is visible 2-3 mm further out than the outside edge, whereas T1 sit below.

Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:03 pm

thanks guys.. I was just wondering if anyone had some comparison shots of the later type 3 rings. (4 lug).

I am having difficultly determining if any of the classifieds are the correct ones. I do have T3 rims so I want the right rings.

thanks!

so if I am looking at these two pictures.. and making an educated guess...

Picture 1: this looks to be a correct T3/Ghia trim ring ... you can see that it fits snug and the valve stem seems to come close to the center most point of the slot

Now in this color picture.. I am guessing these are likely bug or aftermarket trim rings... they dont appear to be too tight, and you can see the valve stem is nearly resting on the outermost portion of the hole.