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Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:30 pm

tazm wrote: Vin 5033568 Jacky Morel ( France) Ex Göring Car

Wow. That's a pretty strong historical connection.

Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:29 am

Yes, actually according to my archives around 20 KdFs were sent to the Offices of Hermann Goring (Germany's Air Force). No other info is given. They were probably issued to top Officials and maybe even top Pilots.

Thu Jan 10, 2008 5:21 am

Alex,

Did you know That VW Sended a car(Typ 60L) with LP IIIA-43012 to;
"DEUTSCHE ARBEITSFRONT" Munchen ???? (1938)
Do you know what I mean???
Von Pidoll maybe you can find that name in in your lists !
There was a car donated to a family member from the author (I think in 43)
I have to go to a Shop to scan the lists, my scanner is only A3 !
But I'll send the scans soon !

Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:02 am

KdF1 wrote: The V1 Rochets were made there, and that made the Plant a huge priority to Bomb.

Only some were made there. there were many plants making them, including the one in the hollowed out mountain.

Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:17 am

Just a little note:
Mr Walter in Germany has one of every year Beetle from 1941 up to the last from Mexico. Seriously. So - what he often shows is the 42, but he also has a 44. Guaranteed.

Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:38 pm

I Know him for years now!
I visit him taday again ! Made some pictures from his museum again, he's changing it every few months, He bought a few new cars(70ties), not old but So nice ! His 45 is still in the museum unrestored what a great car !!

Guido

Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:00 pm

I have the impression that I´m not the only one that is very intressted in seeing the pictures. We have a similar museum in Sweden. But there it is only every year of type1 model from 1948 and up.

Hi Alex! It´s been a few years since we kept in touch! Nice to hear that you are making good progress in finding those impossible parts for you project.

/Joakim

Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:05 am

Ok Here are a few pictures !

http://picasaweb.google.be/GuidoR1961/HW

Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:37 pm

Wert4580 wrote: tazm wrote: Vin 5033568 Jacky Morel ( France) Ex Göring Car

Wow. That's a pretty strong historical connection.

Hmmmmmm??? Very Interesting!..............

Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:26 pm

KdF1 wrote: Yes, actually according to my archives around 20 KdFs were sent to the Offices of Hermann Goring (Germany's Air Force). No other info is given. They were probably issued to top Officials and maybe even top Pilots.

You are correct Alex...........There are no known records that even suggest that Herman Goring owned that particular car. He did own a 1937 Mercedes 540K.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/chassisNum.aspx?carID=9096&iDNumID=3235

Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:29 pm

Goering (Rubbing chin): Hmmmm, vat ottomobile vill I take to ze var today?
Ze Mercedes 540k? Or ze KDF?

Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:43 am

Herman Göring !
owned a 1939 conv !
Lic Plate Ia-223332

Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:12 am

Hi there.
here is the list from the book with isbn 3-933803-13-9

for 1944

5-033568 -J Morel FR Type 82e
1-034080- Z Franitsek CS Type 60
5-034150- J JANSSEN D ype 82e
1-034678- J Morel FR Type 60
5-034993 - Kollarz A Type 82e
5-035164- H Walter D Type 82e

0 numbers for 41 and 40
3 numbers for 42
19 numbers for 43
2 numbers for 45
27 numbers for 46....

Greetings

Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:48 pm

About 10 years ago I offered Clause $200,00 for a restored kdf. He said I wasn't even close and that was ten years ago. I was offered another kdf about that same time period that you could see thru one door and out the other. The car came with almost no parts for $20,000

Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:17 pm

A few years ago I saw the Herman Göring car at Bruce's.
The story he told me is that the car was highjacked during the war. The guy that took it kept it for many years. If Herman Göring was cruzing around France and got highjacked (A.K.A. shot) I think the war would have ended sooner. The car was given to his office not to him directly.

I love the gloveboxes.

Tuck and Roll interior!

A detail shot of the front hood handle. Has anyone ever seen a cover on the lock like this before.

Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:02 am

I'd give 30.000 Euro for that car... :þ - -- -
Genrich wrote: A few years ago I saw the Herman Göring car at Bruce's.
The story he told me is that the car was highjacked during the war. The guy that took it kept it for many years. If Herman Göring was cruzing around France and got highjacked (A.K.A. shot) I think the war would have ended sooner. The car was given to his office not to him directly.

I love the gloveboxes.

Tuck and Roll interior!

A detail shot of the front hood handle. Has anyone ever seen a cover on the lock like this before.

Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:04 am

peter schepens wrote: Hi there.
here is the list from the book with isbn 3-933803-13-9

for 1944

5-033568 -J Morel FR Type 82e
1-034080- Z Franitsek CS Type 60
5-034150- J JANSSEN D ype 82e
1-034678- J Morel FR Type 60
5-034993 - Kollarz A Type 82e
5-035164- H Walter D Type 82e

0 numbers for 41 and 40
3 numbers for 42
19 numbers for 43
2 numbers for 45
27 numbers for 46....

Greetings

I believe I know of another '42 under restoration. It is not included in the list containing the '42s in this book.

Does anybody know how definitive and up-to-date this list is?

Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:19 am

Here is a picture from a list (1994)

I know Herman W. owns now also a 40, 41, and 45 KDF !(not listed)
The Grundmans are owning also several KDF's !maybe you can ask Christian for more details !http://picasaweb.google.be/GuidoR1961/Badge/photo#5154106756659176578

Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:06 pm

Hello !

Sorry for my bad english ...but I'm french !!!

I would like to give some more informations about KdF-Wagen Type 82E (N° 5-033568) owned Jacky Morel (FRANCE).
This car was sold many years (near 2000-2001...) to someone who live in Switzerland.

Sorry, I don't have not enought informations !

Tanguy

Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:03 pm

Do you have pages 2 and 3 or throught the end of 1947 or 1948?

Mike

tazm wrote: Here is a picture from a list (1994)

I know Herman W. owns now also a 40, 41, and 45 KDF !(not listed)
The Grundmans are owning also several KDF's !maybe you can ask Christian for more details !http://picasaweb.google.be/GuidoR1961/Badge/photo#5154106756659176578