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Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:18 pm

I didnt have any hassels when I bought my 60. Went to the tag office in Asheboro, gave them POs signed and notarized NC title, transferred tag from Blazer I sold, forked out $168 :evil: and recieved my new title within a week.

Anybody still having problems? Im getting ready to buy a 62. Did I catch them on a good day?

Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:32 pm

I bought my Bug in the spring and did what I have always done. Took the signed and notarized NC title to the license plate agency at a local mall, gave them the title, my insurance information and some money (don't recall how much), they gave me a plate and reminded me the car didn't need to be inspected.

A couple of weeks later the title came in the mail.

No problems at all... and amazingly enough the girl at the DMV was actually friendly AND cute!

For those that don't know NC has a slightly strange setup. The DMV issues licenses through their own offices, while the places that issue license plates are independent business. The service at those places is FAR better than at the DMV offices.

Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:40 am

Well, I just went through this BS last week.

I bought a 73 Bug, that was previously titled in NC. I always call the DMV before going to see what I need to bring. They told me I would need the inspection by the fraud investigator. So, I called another office - same resposne. I called Raleigh - same deal.

The next day, I called the fraud guy in my county. I gave him the title # that the seller had given to me, and he told me I did not need the inspection, but would have to come to them and have them "inspect it" in order for the office to register it. He said it was a waste of time, and the inspection wasn't needed in this case, but the tag office wouldn't listen to him so it was simpler to just do it as a formality.

Well, I purchased the car from someone 2 counties away. I called the fraud inspector in that county. I gave him the title # I had, and he also said the inspection wasn't needed - only for out of state titles. He said he wouldn't even inspect my car. I said, "Sir, not to sound disrepsectful to you, but the tag office won't register without your report, and you won't give me a report, so I guess I am stuck with a car I can't register." The guy took my name and number, and said he'd call me back. 15 minutes later, he called back. He said he called his local tag office, and spoke with "Mary" (not her real name). He said he told her my car didn't need to be inspected, and was fine to register. He gave me her #. I then called "Mary" myself, and she said she would register the car. So, I drove 1 and a half hours away to see "Mary", and she registered the car, and gave me a plate.

Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:34 am

Has anyone used International Title Service to obtain a 'lost' title for a VW you purchased from other states and in NC? And have any knowledge of a NC DMV form MVR-317

I had a friend in NC about 2 years ago use this service and he did in fact receive all paper work and was able to obtain a title. But 6 months or so later a DMV investigator came to his house and confiscated the title and told him that this company was fraudulent and obtaining a title in this manner was Illegal. But strangely they did not take his License Plate or registration nor was he fined or charged with any criminal intent. He later was told by DMV he could now apply for a lost title? and in fact acquire a title for his bus, I do not understand his whole situation with this particular case but its definitely BS and raises questions for me.

I have two questionable concerns. Number one is I have lined up to purchase a 1953 Oval Bug in NC. The owner has now passed away and his son inherited the car. It is my understanding that the father did not have a title but had owned/had the car in his barn for at least 25 years. I have heard about a DMV form MVR-317 that just might help me obtain a title for this car. Has anyone used this type of form in this state or have any knowledge of the process.

There are two different steps that may be required. Below is the requirements of the MVR-317 taken from NC DMV Web sight but no information given on a acquring a lost tital of the deceased.

MVR-317
Inheriting a Vehicle
Transferring the title of an inherited vehicle requires different steps depending on the presence of an administrator for the deceased. In many cases, consulting a probate attorney is the safest way to make sure you take appropriate action.

Appointed Administrator
Have the administrator assign the title to you and have it notarized.
Make sure the administrator records the odometer reading if the vehicle is less than 10 years old, or provides you with an Odometer Disclosure Statement to sign.
Complete a Damage Disclosure Statement with the administrator.
Obtain a certified copy of the letters of administration or executrix from the administrator.
Complete and have notarized the Title Application.
Visit your Vehicle & License Plate Renewal Office with the above documents and:
Your driver’s license or state-issued ID card.
The $40 titling fee.
The Highway Use Tax (only if the vehicle isn’t part of a will or intestacy).

No Appointed Administrator
Gather the:
Title, properly assigned if you aren’t the surviving spouse.
Completed Form MVR-317 (not available online).
Odometer Disclosure Statement, if the vehicle is less than 10 years old.
Completed and notarized Title Application.
Completed Damage Disclosure Statement.
Head to your Vehicle & License Plate Renewal Office with the above documents and:
Your driver’s license or state-issued ID card.
The $40 titling fee.
The Highway Use Tax (only if the vehicle isn’t part of a will or intestacy).

The second concern is I purchased a 66 deluxe Bus here in NC about 4 years ago and was given a OHIO title that I think does not match the numbers to the bus purchased, and to note the owner had 3 other buses. I think he made a mistake and gave me the wrong one?. I cant make out all the Vin numbers on my bus, but what I can read seem to not match exactly?. The owner has now moved away and his whereabouts is unknown.

Now it seems I may have only one option for the bus and that is: International Title Service.

If anyone has used there service please fill me in.

What exactly did you receive from ITS?

Did the NC DMV accept your proof of ownership, allow you to register the vehicle and issue a title in your name? do you still have to go through the slow inspection process.

Ed.

Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:51 am

if you go on the ITS site it says NC does not accept there paper work.

Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:51 pm

wow I am so glad that I live in NJ! We never have to deal with any of this shit EVER! And really what is the point of this mess?

Zack

Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:35 pm

I guess this means I should see if RI will give me a title for the bug BEFORE I try to bring it to NC. Being over ten years old, RI doesn't require a title for registration and therefore does not issue them if you don't have one. Would be nice if all fifty states would use the same requirements one way or the other...

We do have to have any vehicle that was registered out of state 'VIN checked' at a police station. No appointments needed anymore though. Even if the car is already in your name...

Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:21 pm

I am also trying to obtain a title in NC for a bus I bought last week. This guy I bought it from had it on his property for the past 15 years and never registered it, or titled it. All I have is a bill of sale from this old dude. He does not want to deal with the DMV either so forget asking him. I called the DMV today and they have no record of this bus being registered because they get erased after 10 years. I also checked to see if it was stolen and that came up negative. So now I dont know what to do about the title. But I am looking towards the bonded route which unfortunately states that the vehicle must be in a operable condition? WTF!
Damn North Carolina.

Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:34 am

mactraveler wrote: I am also trying to obtain a title in NC for a bus I bought last week. This guy I bought it from had it on his property for the past 15 years and never registered it, or titled it. All I have is a bill of sale from this old dude. He does not want to deal with the DMV either so forget asking him. I called the DMV today and they have no record of this bus being registered because they get erased after 10 years. I also checked to see if it was stolen and that came up negative. So now I dont know what to do about the title. But I am looking towards the bonded route which unfortunately states that the vehicle must be in a operable condition? WTF!
Damn North Carolina.

Have you called the DMV Enforcement office? (Not the license plate people). The guy I work with got his 1965 Falcon operable, then called DMV enforcement. He drove it to work and DMV officers came out and inspected it. After the verifying VIN, they went to their office and checked for liens and theft, they issued a title. Took a few weeks, but he got a title.

Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:31 am

Yeah I might try that also. I was just trying not to put too much money into this thing until I found out that I can definetly get a title. I will call them and explain the situation. thanks

Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:14 am

dragonbyu wrote: if you go on the ITS site it says NC does not accept there paper work.

Thanks for the info, I checked the ITS page again but could not find anywhere stating NC or any other state does not accept ITS paper work. Here is a link to the ITS page I found,
http://www.its-titles.com/index.htm .
However they add this quote:
"International Title Service has no control over the statutes, rules, regulations or practices of any state motor vehicle department. State statutes, rules, regulations and practices are subject to change without notice and may affect our ability to complete your vehicle transaction. By proceeding with your vehicle transaction through International Title Service, you assume all risk associated with any such change, and you acknowledge that International Title Service is not responsible for any delay or failure of your vehicle transaction caused, in whole or in part, by any such change. We accept no responsibility for your paperwork after it leaves our possession."

As for the vintage automobile collectors including the many undocumented antique vehicles in NC, are all screwed by the DMV. Eventually a lot of the undiscovered or known antique vehicles without the proper documentation the NC DMV requires will never be resurrected, used only for parts, and soon end up as scrap metal. All this due to one Dumb-ass DMV Official helping a friend title a fake vintage car :evil: However I have an :idea: that could work but will cost some extra $$$ . If you have a good trustworthy friend outside the state of NC, sell them your vehicle, they in turn acquire all the proper documentation needed, sell the vehicle back to you. This just might be the perfect NC DMV loophole.

Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:33 am

i, too, looked on the ITS site and did not see anything about NC. the thing to do would be to contact ITS directly, rather than relying on info gathered in this thread.
however, it is clearly stated on the Broadway Title Service website:
Due to changes in their title laws, we are unable to due titles in the following states under ANY circumstances. Alaska, Alabama, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, North Carolina, Wisconsin. Please note, Laws change on a constant basis. So please check with us on any of the states listed. Please call for additional information.
http://www.broadwaytitle.com/pricing.htm

regardless, this state is really fucked up when it comes to automotive paperwork and requirements.

Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:19 am

i know it use to be on there site. because i had to use them to get my bus on the road in New York before i moved to NC. to avoid the hassle here.

Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:21 pm

weekendwarrior wrote: Well, I just went through this BS last week.

I bought a 73 Bug, that was previously titled in NC. I always call the DMV before going to see what I need to bring. They told me I would need the inspection by the fraud investigator. So, I called another office - same resposne. I called Raleigh - same deal.

The next day, I called the fraud guy in my county. I gave him the title # that the seller had given to me, and he told me I did not need the inspection, but would have to come to them and have them "inspect it" in order for the office to register it. He said it was a waste of time, and the inspection wasn't needed in this case, but the tag office wouldn't listen to him so it was simpler to just do it as a formality.

Well, I purchased the car from someone 2 counties away. I called the fraud inspector in that county. I gave him the title # I had, and he also said the inspection wasn't needed - only for out of state titles. He said he wouldn't even inspect my car. I said, "Sir, not to sound disrepsectful to you, but the tag office won't register without your report, and you won't give me a report, so I guess I am stuck with a car I can't register." The guy took my name and number, and said he'd call me back. 15 minutes later, he called back. He said he called his local tag office, and spoke with "Mary" (not her real name). He said he told her my car didn't need to be inspected, and was fine to register. He gave me her #. I then called "Mary" myself, and she said she would register the car. So, I drove 1 and a half hours away to see "Mary", and she registered the car, and gave me a plate.

Just as an update - I received my title in the mail this week...and was able to avoid the "fraud investigator" BS.

Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:44 pm

Hmmm.... When I got our VWs from California, I took the old title to DMV and had no problem getting tag, the lady who worked there said I would need to take it to Catawba county for the inspector too, but had up to a year to do so. I received my new title within a week.

just waiting for the car to get done on the restore so I can take it, I dont care if he wants to see it or not... I just want to show it off! :lol:

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:24 pm

NCdad wrote: Hmmm.... When I got our VWs from California, I took the old title to DMV and had no problem getting tag, the lady who worked there said I would need to take it to Catawba county for the inspector too, but had up to a year to do so. I received my new title within a week.

just waiting for the car to get done on the restore so I can take it, I dont care if he wants to see it or not... I just want to show it off! :lol:

Each "plate" office is independently owned, but has to abide by state regulations. But, since each is independently owned, each owner tends to interpret the law differently. Most will get really indignant if you tell them they are wrong.

When my dad died, I took his Saab 9-5. I was executor of the estate and had court papers from Talladega County allowing me to take possession and ownership of the Saab. My local license plate office told me I had to go back to Alabama, get a title, and come back. DMV enforcement came into work that same day and I talked with the officer. He made one phone call and in two hours, the car was registered and titled in NC.

Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:31 pm

After months and months of waiting, my title finally cae in and I registered the bug. Only bad thing is it has to be inspected by the theft inspector still. But it only cost me 82 bucks to register.

Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:59 pm

Just wait until the new "computerized" safety and emission inspections program starts up....more fiascos fer sure!

Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:24 pm

WallysWesty wrote: Just wait until the new "computerized" safety and emission inspections program starts up....more fiascos fer sure!

lucky for most of us our vehicles are exempt.

Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:29 am

There was an editorial in the local paper, reprinted from another NC paper, about abolishing the inspection requirement altogether. It is a scam and doesn't do anything to really promote safety in this state. It just makes money for the state to run the inspection program.