TheSamba.com :: View topic - The crappiest Barndoor being resurrected?

Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:48 pm

Ok guys! Who has got the badest, crappiest and most rusted away barndoor that is undergoing restoration at the moment? I think that mine is a candidate but probably not the worse one being worked on. It would be nice too see others in a similar situation. So come on and post pictures of your hopeless barndoor projects :P

Its all in swedish but the pictures probably says it all :?

http://www.typ2-klubben.com/blog_/default.asp?blog=226

Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:57 pm

nize wrote: Ok guys! Who has got the badest, crappiest and most rusted away barndoor that is undergoing restoration at the moment? I think that mine is a candidate but probably not the worse one being worked on. It would be nice too see others in a similar situation. So come on and post pictures of your hopeless barndoor projects :P

Its all in swedish but the pictures probably says it all :?

http://www.typ2-klubben.com/blog_/default.asp?blog=226

I'd suggest that the winner is going to be from South America. It won't likely be the rustiest but for how completely fucked over most of them are, it will be far harder to fix the problems they have than to weld in rust repair panels.

Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:07 pm

BUCIOBATISTI wrote: nize wrote: Ok guys! Who has got the badest, crappiest and most rusted away barndoor that is undergoing restoration at the moment? I think that mine is a candidate but probably not the worse one being worked on. It would be nice too see others in a similar situation. So come on and post pictures of your hopeless barndoor projects :P

Its all in swedish but the pictures probably says it all :?

http://www.typ2-klubben.com/blog_/default.asp?blog=226

I'd suggest that the winner is going to be from South America. It won't likely be the rustiest but for how completely fucked over most of them are, it will be far harder to fix the problems they have than to weld in rust repair panels.

You are probably right there! At least I dont have to deal with a baywindow front screen, a cut in sliding door or millions of previous repairs...

Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:22 pm

I have one in mind but I don't want to offend the owner by suggesting it. It is a Deluxe that I saw in person years ago and it would take seeing it in person in order to understand. It was South American, a total Frankenstein, hacked all over the place, wrong era body sections all over it, and the craziest thing was that it seemed like none of the window holes were square anymore. I was noticing that they were all "squished" in one way or another and after the horribly boogery gas welding on the window sills from previous owners, I'd guess that you would have to individually cut every piece of glass for the Bus as you could certainly never fit one factory piece of glass into the misshapen holes. Those that saw it in person were impressed much the same as I was. Again, not a rusty Bus at all, just distorted in a hundred other ways that would be an absolute nightmare to fix to a high standard. I just don't think that anyone has the desire, time, or money to see a Bus like that through completely and correctly.

Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:27 pm

gotta be this one

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247928&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:56 pm

dude, nize, you have the talent, would you please go get this bus and bring it back to life.

i know you could do it easy, with what i see there. i know it will be a pain, but it would be sick. :) man i wish that was closer, id go get it. and stash it in my garage. few weeks worth of welding and it would look like a bus again.

Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:49 pm

Lowdown Dirty Rat wrote: gotta be this one

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=247928&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

That one came to mind and it is positively rough but I'd far rather have it than most any of the South American Barndoors I've ever seen. Rusted and the roof is collapsed but it hasn't been abused, bent, butchered, modified, updated, booger gas welded, and gallons of bondos sculpted all over it, etc.

Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:15 pm

nize wrote:

Its all in swedish but the pictures probably says it all :?

http://www.typ2-klubben.com/blog_/default.asp?blog=226

What is swedish for "20mm cannon holes in the rear of the bus"?

Your bus is looking good!! That's a lot of work!!

Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:52 pm

Wheelie Pete wrote: nize wrote:

Its all in swedish but the pictures probably says it all :?

http://www.typ2-klubben.com/blog_/default.asp?blog=226

What is swedish for "20mm cannon holes in the rear of the bus"?

Your bus is looking good!! That's a lot of work!!

You are spot on! It really are 20 mm cannon holes and I cant understand why... There are several holes from smaller caliber bullets too. It seems to have happen to alot of Swedish vans. It was common for them to end up in the woods and I guess people mixed them up with elks or deers :P

That smashed up deluxe above is another swedish van. It looks so much better already. Thats a hell of a project too.

Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:57 pm

Just got to remember the Kempes panel van. That is also going to be/is an exiting resto... Still not like the South American vans though but the story about how it was found is so cool!

http://www.ssvc.org.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=35155

Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:44 pm

The Kempes bus cant possibly go under the title of 'Crappiest barndoor being resurrected'. That thing is a walk in the park compared to alot of others. Thats whats so amazing about it, buried up to its gutter for god knows how long in a seriously wet cold country and dug up looking not half bad.

Also lets not forget that not ALL south american buses are herrendous, there are/have been a 'few' good examples found down there.

Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:35 am

I dont want that title :)

I agree its absolutely no where near as bad as half the south american buses-there is nothing mother nature can throw at a bus that man cant do 10 times worse. Some of those are just mullered and often end up on Uk Ebay.
Some of those south american buses are only fit to be used for chassis number donation for Gerson to build new ones.

The Kempes Bus needs alot of time, some of the damage (accident and crane lifting) to it is not obvious in the pictures and it has no real chassis to speak of just bars underneath to brace it, you can crumble alot of the rails in your fingers :shock: :D .

Let see some brave SA Barndoor restoration pics, some one must be doing one

Anyhow i have only straightened the rear lid so that doesnt count as started :)

Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:08 am

52panelvan wrote: I dont want that title :)

I agree its absolutely no where near as bad as half the south american buses-there is nothing mother nature can throw at a bus that man cant do 10 times worse. Some of those are just mullered and often end up on Uk Ebay.
Some of those south american buses are only fit to be used for chassis number donation for Gerson to build new ones.

The Kempes Bus needs alot of time, some of the damage (accident and crane lifting) to it is not obvious in the pictures and it has no real chassis to speak of just bars underneath to brace it, you can crumble alot of the rails in your fingers :shock: :D .

Let see some brave SA Barndoor restoration pics, some one must be doing one

Anyhow i have only straightened the rear lid so that doesnt count as started :)

Sorry mate! I had no intention to throw a shadow over your bus. I just wanted a thread where I could see for sure that I am not the only one that has a bus that consists of more brown metal oxide than good solid metal. :D

Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:47 am

Hey Nize,

Oh good god none taken at all - the van is what it is - a rusty hulk :D - no getting away from that. The way i look at it is if it hadnt ended up buried it would have been crushed many years ago so im very greatfull its just rust and it can be fixed.

I have been following your progress on your van, excellent work on your chassis- keep the pics and updates coming.

Cheers
Mark

Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:42 am

mightymouse wrote: dude, nize, you have the talent, would you please go get this bus and bring it back to life.

i know you could do it easy, with what i see there. i know it will be a pain, but it would be sick. :) man i wish that was closer, id go get it. and stash it in my garage. few weeks worth of welding and it would look like a bus again.

I would love an early barndoor panelvan to dig in to but that is just too much work! There will not be so much left of the original van after a resto but still it is the world oldest known RHD until today. That might make it worth saving. If I did not have my current project I would try to save it. Now there is just no more time.

I have a 64 singlecab waiting for rest to. It is so incredible good compared to the vans listes here :D

If I would find a really early Porsche 356 then things would come into a completely different situation but the odds for that seem low luckily so I guess I will keep the pictures coming.

Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:21 am

Just out of curiousity, where is that van (the panel from the previous post)located at??

Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:46 pm

52panelvan wrote: Hey Nize,

Oh good god none taken at all - the van is what it is - a rusty hulk :D - no getting away from that. The way i look at it is if it hadnt ended up buried it would have been crushed many years ago so im very greatfull its just rust and it can be fixed.

I have been following your progress on your van, excellent work on your chassis- keep the pics and updates coming.

Cheers
Mark

You are right there Mark! Lucky it was burried! :wink:

By the way your resto work is really excellent too and is really inspiring for me. After seeing your rear wheel arch I decided to make my own too :D

Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:47 pm

Wheelie Pete wrote: Just out of curiousity, where is that van (the panel from the previous post)located at??

Out in a swamp somewhere in the middle of Sweden. :D

Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:30 am

My bus had the whole underneath replaced, chassis rails included

Although from the outside now you'd never guess it, all you can see are replaced sills and dog legs

Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:58 am

Just out of curiosity, what ever happened to the super early (maybe earliest) single cab of Jeff Walters? I remember he had it acid dipped, and about half of it never came out of the tank!!