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Jake Raby Thu May 11, 2017 6:11 am

Today I still do what I've always done. In the 2004-2007 period I did spend a lot of time developing Porsche's water-cooled engine, and took that time away from T4 and other aircooled work.

Fast forward till today and I have patented two products that save those water-cooled engines, of which more than 100,00 were built. I have 4 more Patents pending for other items as well.

My company grew and created a secondary division, which kept us going strong through the great recession. Today I have a crew that runs the water-cooled Porsche side of the house, while I continue building aircooled Porsche engines, and T4s. Its my therapy now, and I have gone back to working by myself, the way that it used to be. I play with the things I want to, while my crew handles the rest.

I still do a ton of T4 development work for my engine program. The only thing I do today with the water-cooled Porsche side is related to development, and training Porsche technicians that travel from far and wide to attend my hands- on engine rebuild school.

If someone wants a Camper Special, (CS+ today) and they answer all the questions right, I'll build them one. They better have patience, and monetary resources, as it won't be quick, and it won't be cheap. What matters most to me today is ensuring that I don't have any customers for these engines that have an unreal expectation, so I lay it all out on day #1, and its a big reality check. Few can take the truth, in the way that I present it, which is tactful, but very "on point". I do this to set the tone for the build, and when I do this, and people are the type that appreciate it, we will have a flawless project with them

I stopped sharing, because I learned that when you argue with a fool, the people standing around won't know which one is which.

raygreenwood Thu May 11, 2017 6:47 am

Jake Raby wrote: Today I still do what I've always done. In the 2004-2007 period I did spend a lot of time developing Porsche's water-cooled engine, and took that time away from T4 and other aircooled work.

Fast forward till today and I have patented two products that save those water-cooled engines, of which more than 100,00 were built. I have 4 more Patents pending for other items as well.

My company grew and created a secondary division, which kept us going strong through the great recession. Today I have a crew that runs the water-cooled Porsche side of the house, while I continue building aircooled Porsche engines, and T4s. Its my therapy now, and I have gone back to working by myself, the way that it used to be. I play with the things I want to, while my crew handles the rest.

I still do a ton of T4 development work for my engine program. The only thing I do today with the water-cooled Porsche side is related to development, and training Porsche technicians that travel from far and wide to attend my hands- on engine rebuild school.

If someone wants a Camper Special, (CS+ today) and they answer all the questions right, I'll build them one. They better have patience, and monetary resources, as it won't be quick, and it won't be cheap. What matters most to me today is ensuring that I don't have any customers for these engines that have an unreal expectation, so I lay it all out on day #1, and its a big reality check. Few can take the truth, in the way that I present it, which is tactful, but very "on point". I do this to set the tone for the build, and when I do this, and people are the type that appreciate it, we will have a flawless project with them

I stopped sharing, because I learned that when you argue with a fool, the people standing around won't know which one is which.

:wink: that would go well on a shirt! Ray

TDCTDI Thu May 11, 2017 7:40 am

raygreenwood wrote: Jake Raby wrote: Today I still do what I've always done. In the 2004-2007 period I did spend a lot of time developing Porsche's water-cooled engine, and took that time away from T4 and other aircooled work.

Fast forward till today and I have patented two products that save those water-cooled engines, of which more than 100,00 were built. I have 4 more Patents pending for other items as well.

My company grew and created a secondary division, which kept us going strong through the great recession. Today I have a crew that runs the water-cooled Porsche side of the house, while I continue building aircooled Porsche engines, and T4s. Its my therapy now, and I have gone back to working by myself, the way that it used to be. I play with the things I want to, while my crew handles the rest.

I still do a ton of T4 development work for my engine program. The only thing I do today with the water-cooled Porsche side is related to development, and training Porsche technicians that travel from far and wide to attend my hands- on engine rebuild school.

If someone wants a Camper Special, (CS+ today) and they answer all the questions right, I'll build them one. They better have patience, and monetary resources, as it won't be quick, and it won't be cheap. What matters most to me today is ensuring that I don't have any customers for these engines that have an unreal expectation, so I lay it all out on day #1, and its a big reality check. Few can take the truth, in the way that I present it, which is tactful, but very "on point". I do this to set the tone for the build, and when I do this, and people are the type that appreciate it, we will have a flawless project with them

I stopped sharing, because I learned that when you argue with a fool, the people standing around won't know which one is which.

:wink: that would go well on a shirt! Ray
That would be a long read for a T-shirt :lol:

regis101 Thu May 11, 2017 8:18 am

Quote: Then waterboxers with high compression.

My bad. I thought this was a reference to the DH and MV engines for the Vanagons. I have memories of the Porsche engine work.

Jake Raby Thu May 11, 2017 10:02 am

No VW wassers for me. The few wasser based engines I built were converted to Oxyboxers.

The only Vanagon I own is a Diesel Bundeswehr Doka.

raygreenwood Thu May 11, 2017 11:43 am

TDCTDI wrote: raygreenwood wrote: Jake Raby wrote: Today I still do what I've always done. In the 2004-2007 period I did spend a lot of time developing Porsche's water-cooled engine, and took that time away from T4 and other aircooled work.

Fast forward till today and I have patented two products that save those water-cooled engines, of which more than 100,00 were built. I have 4 more Patents pending for other items as well.

My company grew and created a secondary division, which kept us going strong through the great recession. Today I have a crew that runs the water-cooled Porsche side of the house, while I continue building aircooled Porsche engines, and T4s. Its my therapy now, and I have gone back to working by myself, the way that it used to be. I play with the things I want to, while my crew handles the rest.

I still do a ton of T4 development work for my engine program. The only thing I do today with the water-cooled Porsche side is related to development, and training Porsche technicians that travel from far and wide to attend my hands- on engine rebuild school.

If someone wants a Camper Special, (CS+ today) and they answer all the questions right, I'll build them one. They better have patience, and monetary resources, as it won't be quick, and it won't be cheap. What matters most to me today is ensuring that I don't have any customers for these engines that have an unreal expectation, so I lay it all out on day #1, and its a big reality check. Few can take the truth, in the way that I present it, which is tactful, but very "on point". I do this to set the tone for the build, and when I do this, and people are the type that appreciate it, we will have a flawless project with them

I stopped sharing, because I learned that when you argue with a fool, the people standing around won't know which one is which.

:wink: that would go well on a shirt! Ray
That would be a long read for a T-shirt :lol:

You KNOW I just meant the final quote!....but I could do it both ways if you want. :lol: Ray

orwell84 Thu May 11, 2017 3:11 pm

I am curious as to why the air-cooled engines seemed to hold more interest for you in developing them. It seems like that is what you are most interested in and would rather do. Just wondering what is is about the air cooled engine that makes it different for you in this way.

My guess would be that it is more challenging to get right and that water cooled engines are more forgiving of less precise work. I run into people who seem to see ACVW engines as simple and crude, but I think the opposite. The elegance in the engineering behind them makes for a cleaner design that some may interpret as simple or crude

TDCTDI Thu May 11, 2017 3:12 pm

raygreenwood wrote: but I could do it both ways if you want. :lol: Ray
Careful now, that's just TMI! :P

Jake Raby Fri May 12, 2017 6:08 am

orwell84 wrote: I am curious as to why the air-cooled engines seemed to hold more interest for you in developing them. It seems like that is what you are most interested in and would rather do. Just wondering what is is about the air cooled engine that makes it different for you in this way.

My guess would be that it is more challenging to get right and that water cooled engines are more forgiving of less precise work. I run into people who seem to see ACVW engines as simple and crude, but I think the opposite. The elegance in the engineering behind them makes for a cleaner design that some may interpret as simple or crude

Aircooled engines are what built this business. Its what I first learned on, and I like to do more with less. I also like to bring things back from the dead, and restore them. Its kind of hard to do that with the new, plastic stuff.

All that said, I like the modern Porsche engines as well, as they have issues that we can solve, and help hundreds of thousands of people. Its also a way for us to experience more modern technology, and adopt the things that we can for the aircooled engines.

Aircooled engines are my therapy, so I watch what we build, and who we build it for, simply because therapy can become a nightmare if you deal with the wrong guy. Today about 75% of people are "the wrong guy".

cmonSTART Fri May 12, 2017 6:30 am

Your customer struggles are shared by many business owners across many industries....

nemobuscaptain Fri May 12, 2017 6:47 am

regis101 wrote: Quote: Then waterboxers with high compression.

My bad. I thought this was a reference to the DH and MV engines for the Vanagons. I have memories of the Porsche engine work.

Someone was pimping ceramics heads and really high compression (higher than the Euro engines). If Jake says it wasnt him, then I guess my memory was wrong.

Abscate Fri May 12, 2017 7:11 am

cmonSTART wrote: Your customer struggles are shared by many business owners across many industries....

Business have gotten a lot better at culling out profitable customers from the chaff. Airlines are a prime example. I fire about 1/3 of my clients each year when I am at the point of diminishing value or if they don't follow my advice. You pay me for my advice, and if you know better, then you shouldn't be paying me.

regis101 Fri May 12, 2017 6:04 pm

Quote: Someone was pimping ceramics heads and really high compression (higher than the Euro engines)

Nah. It was the Boxster's engine he was tweaking' on, if my three remaining brain cells can agree upon. No worries

Brian 11 Sat Aug 19, 2017 3:37 am

[img]Jake,

Brian here. Been awhile sine I have been on SAMBA. Been Getting Life back in order. Still have your Company Bus original Power Stroke motor and Transmission in Type D preservation in my 72 sunroof stored along with the original GEX S%h^[email protected] motor with Weber Carb and transmission. Please feel free to state what this motor has done and the things you put it through. This information is no longer on the Web. But knowing JR reputation I purchased it. Back to working on Helicopters again Sir. Contractor and Military finally found out cutting personnel numbers did not work out. Now working on the Romeo. This thing? Being I work on the avionics I call it an X Box 360 on Steroids with a broken foot still. Sorry I am Old school but adapting. I did in the meantime build engine harnesses for G.E. turbines and make contact lenses for J and J. Got a video of that before I left. Monster machine. Learned a lot about robotics and vacuum / pressure actuators and MANY sensors. To all of you that do not know I arrived at Air Cooled Heaven years ago to purchase the Company Bus original Power stroke engine and 6 rib transmission in a water cooled 1990 Suzuki Swift. Yes JR let a water cooled vehicle back then on the property. Was a long drive up to the compound which is now paved. Passenger seat removed. We shoe horned the engine into the back and the trans went into the passenger floor. This motor Jake assembled with a VW Rabbit fuel injection system. It was his test mule. JR told me face to face, Don't Rev it and Pop the clutch. The 6 rib will be Toast. Jake I still have it and hopefully soon in the Next 2 years will be getting the Bus restored. In Arizona not Florida. Bought a home in Lake Havasu the sister and brother in law helped overhaul and are currently living in. They Bug out when I move in. Would like to converse with you as to the engine and transmission before I send the bus to Az. for restore. I will be putting this all together after the bus is restored. If you still have my contact info Please give me a Buzz at your convenience. If not I do not hear fro you I will try to contact you through your current info. Did not fall off the Planet. Just had some Life's Journeys to make decisions on the forks in the road. Enough said here. We can converse more off site. Including stuff I never sent you. No promises though but I will do what I can do. To all out there. I met the man. Got a tour of Air Cooled Heaven back then and was Blown Away. Today what I see it is 10 X's better. Times change and so does business. JR has moved on but has not forgotten the past If I was 30 years younger I would want to live in Georgia as an apprentice. I do hold that muffler I purchased from Len to Fit to this Motor. Best to you and yours JR. Brian. . .






raygreenwood Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:31 am

Niiiiiice header!

Ray

Clatter Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:00 am

IIRC, that's the Tangerine bus exhasust?

Jake Raby Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:48 am

Brian, Nice hearing from you... That was many moons ago!! I wondered what happened to that engine.

TravelingInAFriedOutKombi Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:10 am

Just read this entire post and all replies. Damn did I learn a lot about my engine. I was just quoted $4000 to rebuild the top end of my FI type 4. Now that I know quality parts aren't even available- I won't be throwing my money away. Seems to me the best options now are (obviously) pay Jake 25k to do it right, throw a type 1 in there and rebuild it every 50k miles, or do a subie conversion.

As a poor college kid who just paid $4500 for the bus, I think I'm shit outta luck. The PO told me that the motor had been rebuilt 17k miles ago. I believed him based on me driving it for about 50 miles before pulling the trigger. Funny how things end up. I think I'll be exiting the VW community until I have real money. Or I win the lottery.

:(

Hoody Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:44 am

Quality parts are still available. They are just difficult to source and take time to find.

KentPS Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:59 am

TravelingInAFriedOutKombi wrote: Seems to me the best options now are (obviously) pay Jake 25k to do it right, throw a type 1 in there and rebuild it every 50k miles, or do a subie conversion.
:(
Yeah, it may seem bleak, not having the funds to have your engine rebuilt. But the fourth option to consider is to pull the engine and diagnose/fix it yourself. Thousands of VW owners have done it, so there's no reason you can't. It will save huge amounts of cash, and you'll learn a lot about your engine. That's what college is about, right? ...learning and struggling? :D



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