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Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:46 pm

Hi all,
How do you attach the top door plastic trim which is fitted around the interior? Is it possible for someone to put a few pictures up
Thanks Dave

Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:11 pm

Back side with clips:

It clips on so you push the clips through the holes in the door, then push it to lock the clips in place.

Unless I am remembering wrong, you would push it toward the front of the car to lock it place... and vice versa.

Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:00 am

Check behind your door panels, they tend to slide off the plastic and fall all the way in.

Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:40 am

Hi all, thanks for feedback. Is it possible to see a panel where the plastic strip is fitted, without it actually fitted. Hope that makes sense. Does the plastic strip fit over the interior panel & connect to door? or does the panel fit up to/against the plastic strip?
Thanks for your help

Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:06 pm

The trim strip overlaps the upper door card by about 10mm

D

Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:36 am

Hi,
Thanks for close up pictures. I can see now. The problem I have is that the interior panel goes to the top.
I was wondering if I can attach the plastic trim over the panel & through onto the door??

Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:13 am

You can probably modify/save your new door panels with extensive modifications.
Take them off and work on the top piece attachment & interface with the lower door panel.

Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:11 pm

dave1 wrote: Hi,
Thanks for close up pictures. I can see now. The problem I have is that the interior panel goes to the top.
I was wondering if I can attach the plastic trim over the panel & through onto the door??

Have you got the early wraparound dash pad? By the look of your pic you have a later pad so there is no point having the top trim strip on the door.

D

Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:42 pm

Yeah, I was going to say those looked like 66-67 style door panels, not the material, but rather the shape of the panel. That along with the arm rest. On the 65 and earlier used a 2 piece door panel, along with the black trim piece across the top of the panel. The upper part of the panel tucked into the armrest, versus the armrest attaching to the door panel like the 66 on do.

Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:47 pm

Bobnotch wrote: Yeah, I was going to say those looked like 66-67 style door panels, not the material, but rather the shape of the panel. That along with the arm rest. On the 65 and earlier used a 2 piece door panel, along with the black trim piece across the top of the panel. The upper part of the panel tucked into the armrest, versus the armrest attaching to the door panel like the 66 on do.

Bob, it looks like still two piece door card but top is made to delete the top trim strip. It looks like the dash pad is colour coded to match card colour but 66 on shape. Would look odd to mix the two. Suggest forget the wraparound trim strip. Hard to find a useable wraparound dash in RHD these days. Maybe some in UK for the original poster. Near impossible here in OZ these days

D

Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:25 pm

Hi Guys,
This is a picture before the interior was done which had the upper trim from previous owner. Would like to add the trim hence asking the question but looks unlikely with the top interior panel going to the top of the door

Thank you for all your help.

Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:28 pm

You dont have the wrap around dash pad. The whole idea of that upper peice is for the wrap around affect. The ends of the doors wont meet the dash right.

Wrap around dash and door.

Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:05 pm

Nice pictures, good detail for me thanks. I've attached my dash top corner as I believe it's original but covered in leather. It looks to have a flat shape where the door top would met. What do you think?

I've seen a reproduction top dash as they are almost impossible to get. What are these like made by Herman Elzerman in South Africa?

Thank you for all your help

Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:02 pm

Edit - ok well fu&k - I assumed you were in Australia. You could have a German notch thats just been previous owner molested.

Australian Type 3's were being assembled from kits provided by VW of Germany from 64 onward. VW of Australia took certain liberties with some of the parts being made in Australia. Typical things like BOSCH products say Made in Australia - Not Germany. Lots of times with a Kangaroo stamped with them to denote their origin.

Because of this, Australian built Type 3's made from CKD kits (complete knock down) sent from Germany came less interiors, being painted and without other bobs and bits that would be sourced and used locally at the assembly plant.

The door trim bit you want to fit is from a German spec type 3 interior - being a wrap around trim piece. Your dash probably is original to your car, but Australian built T3's did not have a wrap around dash. The ends were the style carried over till production ended, essentially a wrap around dash delete effect. Your car had a vinyl strip at the top of the door card that simulated the German wrap design.

There are early notchbacks in Australia that are "S" models with wrap around dashes. But they were German built and imported and are highly prized in Australia having that providence.

Hope that makes sense.

Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:36 pm

Dave1, Jason. By the photos Dave1 has posted re a previous owner, it looks like the Variant S was sold around 2009 from Melbourne, Aus and went to UK. It is a genuine German built Variant 1500S, not an Australian production one. The other photos on the UK site if it is the same vehicle showing the original wraparound dash in place so the one in your Variant has been replaced now with a re covered 66 on dash. The front seats (material) look to be from a 1965 Australian production 1500 Twin S as it was known here. The original seat material was starting to rot due to the heat here after only 4 or 5 years

Dave1, you have possibly the last German built Variant S which was in Australia . No other one has surfaced since although someone claimed some years ago to have one in Perth Aus. As for the imported German built 1500S Notch, there are only about 4 surviving here. My one here in NSW, Aaron Britcher's in Adelaide, one in Queensland somewhere and another surfaced in country NSW about 2 years back. There is also a LHD Notch which was imported a couple of years back in Sydney and is being restored. As far as we know there are only two in the country which are registered for road use.

Here is a pic from UK Site showing dashpad was originally the correct wraparound type.

Full story UK history here. http://www.vwtype3and4club.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=4720

D

Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:43 pm

Hi Dhanna,
Thank you for your positive feedback. You are correct that is my car in the attachment. I have a few pictures that came with the cars folding which includes the top plastic trim & correct dash although looked pretty cracked up. The car was imported in 2009 from Australia to the UK.
The new interior was done by the previous owner. The car itself is very solid as indicated in the article as in the last pictures but at that time still had the old original interior.
My main aim is to refit the top plastic trim & correct RHD dash, both parts difficult to obtain.
Not to sure where notchboy was going with his input, but all comments welcome.
I had been after a RHD for a good while with numerous wanted adverts. When this came up I thought I had to have it especially as the body was in good condition.
Would you have any leads in obtaining a RHD top dash by any chance

Thank you Dave

Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:45 pm

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Check your door for those square openings on the very top. You need them to insert the above referenced clips. If you don't have them, your doors may have been swapped or your car is either CKD or an N model. And you will need more narrow top door panels to uncover those square holes.

Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:52 pm

I thought your notch was a CKD Australian car. That's where all my comments were coming from. I also thought you were in Australia. My fault. Carry on then and good luck finding an OG RHD wrap around dash. 8)

Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:39 am

Dave1, if you have the old cracked wraparound don't despair. A couple of years back when I actually got my 1500S out for a 1100km run, the original wraparound dash I had done for my original build the poor fit drove me crazy. In the following months I decided to make a replacement. I had a 1966 on pad plus the end sections from a wraparound dash. I also had the metal dash from a 1969 car. By having the metal part it meant my 3 part dash could be jigged for assembly with fibre glass/epoxy resin as well as body filler. The dash ends had 1/16" plywood caps to ensure crisp joints where the door upper trim meets. That was the section which drove me crazy as that restorer sanded a big radius on them plus it was getting a few bubbles around the instrument cluster. When I was happy with the surface and fit I took it to the local dash repairer (not the same one as 20 years ago!) and for a cost of Au$280 I had a nice fitting pad.

You don't have to explain to the repairer what you want if you do all that legwork yourself. Once you are happy with YOUR work you can then threaten the repairer with physical violence if he stuffs your work up!! :?

There must be a wrecker around you in the UK where you can get even a loan of a metal dash to do the job. I don't know what your background is for required skills but it isn't that hard to get the curves how they should be. Note that I didn't put speaker holes in.

YOU CAN DO IT!!

Note that I posted these pics earlier this year when someone else was looking for a dash restoration.

Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:55 am

DHanna that dash turned out nice indeed. So its just skinned over with 2 way stretch vinyl after you fixed the dash?