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Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:07 pm

:?: I have a 74 standard beetle and I would like to put a 914 transmission. Does anyone know if this can be done, If so how hard is it to do? and what is involved...Is there a website. I have a 914 tranny that was donated to my cause. :?

Wed Sep 28, 2005 9:32 pm

yeah, you will have to flip the ring and pinion or you will have 5 gears in reverse. Locate a 911 nose cone and shift lever and it will work.

The 914 tranny is set up for a mid engine car so you do have to modify it.

Geoff

Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:09 pm

I need more....more....more...actually I'm afraid to attack this project. How hard is it to flip the gears..How hard is it to put on a 911 nose cone?....Is there a tech page with this information? more...MOre...More
Thanks for what you've given me so far, you just wet my appetite.

Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:25 pm

You take apart the tranny and remove the gear stack and intermediate plate. Careful with the paper gaskets as they are color coded and you have to match them with new ones.
Remove the differental and install it on the other side of the tranny.
Reinstall the intermediate plate and gear stack installing the new paper gaskets with the same color coding.
Install the 911 nose cone and adjust the shift forks.

Get a manual as there are some tricky things that need to be set and the sychros should be changed if you are pulling in apart.
On Shoptalkforums.com there used to be a article for install a 901 in a bug. Look there for it.

Geoff

Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:42 pm

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Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:42 am

Just get the proper 901 transmission for the conversion ---

Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:24 pm

Bleyseng wrote: yeah, you will have to flip the ring and pinion or you will have 5 gears in reverse. Locate a 911 nose cone and shift lever and it will work.

The 914 tranny is set up for a mid engine car so you do have to modify it.

Geoff

flip the R/P in a 914 tranny? Are you high? It is a single sided tunnel. How are you going to flip the ring to the other side? :roll:

for rear engine application, you have to turn the tranny upside down. That is right...upside down... if you you want the motor to be in the rear.

There will be some welding and moving of breather holes and so forth.

Not an easy proposition.

Enjoy.

Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:39 pm

A 911 901 is the same as the 914 901 tranny other than the R&P are flipped.
Lots of 914 guys when rebuilding a tranny make the mistake of installing the R&P on the wrong side and get 5 gears in reverse.

Now a G50 has to be upside down in a 914.....

Geoff

Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:29 am

nsracing wrote:
flip the R/P in a 914 tranny? Are you high? It is a single sided tunnel. How are you going to flip the ring to the other side? :roll:

for rear engine application, you have to turn the tranny upside down. That is right...upside down... if you you want the motor to be in the rear.

There will be some welding and moving of breather holes and so forth.

Not an easy proposition.

Enjoy.

People who come out and spew this kind of misinformation are the worst kind.

You are wrong. The R&P is easily flipped, the trans can be converted for use in a Bug (or 911/912) with the right parts, and it will work just fine.

I have a tailshift 914 trans in my 912, and it is certainly NOT upside down.

You will need a 911/912 side plate with the clutch tube fitting, a 911 nose cone, and a 911 shift rod. You need to plug up the stock vent hole and relocate the vent to the opposite side of the case (the cast in boss is already there), so that fluid is not thrown up through the vent when the ring gear is on the opposite side of the case. You need to alter the location of a boss on the intermediate plate so it lines up with the 911 nose cone (the material is there for this, just drill and move the locating pin).

This applies only to early tailshift 914 trannies. The later side shift transmissions would be far more difficult to create a shift linkage for.

Care to explain why you even think the way you do?

Grant

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:37 pm

nsracing wrote:
flip the R/P in a 914 tranny? Are you high? It is a single sided tunnel. How are you going to flip the ring to the other side?

The same way people have been doing it with all non-hypoid single side cover transmissions (901, 915. 930, SSC VW, etc) for decades: Install the diff/ring gear before installing the mainshaft/pinion gear cluster. It's not rocket science.

Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:29 am

Here is a conversion kit for making the install of a 901 or 915 easier.
http://www.bugat5speed.de/

Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:41 am

How about mounting the 901 into a Type 3? I just learned that the floorpan is different from the T-1.
I just brought my first T-3 home yesterday, and it is the T-3 I'm planning to convert to Porsche... :wink:

I'm mainly concerned about the nosecone and the gearshift axle entry to the floorpan tunnel...

Edit-> Oh. forgot to tell you that it's got the IRS rearframe without rear transmission mount horns..

Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:44 pm

hebster i was wondering if there is a way i can read the literature on that website. everything is in german. can it be translated to english or am i just screwed and have to figure it out by the pics.

Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:43 pm

Hi You can use Babelfish (Link below)
http://babelfish.altavista.com/

The site is Swedish but basically you copy the URL for the site you want to translate into the empty "http://" row below Översätt en Websida.

Then you pick Tyska till Engelska from "Välj till och från språk" and click Översätt.

I hope this helps. :D

Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:46 pm

that site helped me out a whole bunch. thank you very much. i might even buy some of their products when they finish the prototypes. a little pricey but i am sure it is all worth it.

Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:20 am

I also have a 67 901 5-speed for sale have the shifter, shift rod, hanger, tranny. feel free to contact me, if anyone is interested.

Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:57 am

Those axles also need something to bolt into besides the tranny on one end! Make it easy and just weld control arm mounts on. Or also convert your swingaxle to IRS and get a clean looking drop without your car looking like it just peed itself and is trying not to step in it! DO This I---I not this /----\ !!
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Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:06 am

The only way to go is offcourse to convert to IRS... You can then even use 944 trailingarms and rear discbrakes... :wink:

There is no 901 Swingaxle transmission... :roll: