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Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:41 pm

vamram wrote: Dang, that thing took a beating. Looks like it was used for punting practice! :D

Victor

It was bent like that when I got it. The paint was fine though until today.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:11 pm

don't powdercoat it, you will ruin the fibers in it. I tried that route.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:25 pm

ryohey wrote: don't powdercoat it, you will ruin the fibers in it. I tried that route.

How did they get ruined? Did they get coated? Or did the heat hurt them? And where did you have it powdercoated?

I already have a guy lined up to powdercoat it. Clark Callis at awesomepowdercoat.com says he can do it. He seems to mainly or exclusively deal with air-cooled Volkswagen parts. He say he's done oil bath air cleaners before. I figured he know what he's doing.

But still. What will it hurt? Can I have him do it and just tell him to mask the fibers or something? Or what?

Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:29 pm

It looks like I answered my own question.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=482089&highlight=oil+bath+fiber

But according to that the problem occurs when the oil bath fibers where washed out with a light oil such as kerosene or diesel, which can reach their flash point at powdercoating temps. I washed mine out with a degreaser and boiling water. I can do it again a few more times to make sure there's not enough oil to create a problem.

Any other observations? Now I'm 50/50 on whether to powdercoat the thing or not. Would someone convince me one way or the other please.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:39 pm

I would just degrease it, scuff it, clean it, paint it and call it good. I just used rustoleum and it looks fine.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:53 pm

Mind you all the rest of my tins are powder coated.

It can't be that bad for them if powder coated air cleaners are sold as "restored".

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1205461

Edit:

I see that there is a problem and "fix" he does.

erokCom wrote: Note
The inside bottom of the filter element (the portion that sits in oil) cannot be powder coated. It's simply masked off during the process to protect from the heat. This is the only way to ensure no damage is caused.

So I'll just paint it. Any suggestions on what kind of paint to use?

Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:11 pm

Why not search for a better, used oil bath? I see them at swap meets for $10-20 dollars.

I'd paint it vs. powder coat?

Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:19 pm

wcfvw69 wrote: Why not search for a better, used oil bath? I see them at swap meets for $10-20 dollars.

I'd paint it vs. powder coat?

I've never been to a swap meet. Where would I find out about them?

Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:36 pm

Juanito84 wrote: wcfvw69 wrote: Why not search for a better, used oil bath? I see them at swap meets for $10-20 dollars.

I'd paint it vs. powder coat?

I've never been to a swap meet. Where would I find out about them?

I'll expand on what I meant about swap meet. If you go to a classic VW car show, they usually have a swap meet as well. There's usually 2 or 3 a year here in Phoenix. The parts sell for 1/3 of the prices here on The Samba.

You can search the classifieds here as well.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:43 pm

wcfvw69 wrote: I'll expand on what I meant about swap meet. If you go to a classic VW car show, they usually have a swap meet as well. There's usually 2 or 3 a year here in Phoenix. The parts sell for 1/3 of the prices here on The Samba.

You can search the classifieds here as well.

Ok. I've never been to Phoenix. But a VW car show sounds fun. Yes, I saw one for $70 in good shape and another one slightly dented for $45 here in the classifieds.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:45 pm

Juanito84 wrote: wcfvw69 wrote: I'll expand on what I meant about swap meet. If you go to a classic VW car show, they usually have a swap meet as well. There's usually 2 or 3 a year here in Phoenix. The parts sell for 1/3 of the prices here on The Samba.

You can search the classifieds here as well.

Ok. I've never been to Phoenix. But a VW car show sounds fun. Yes, I saw one for $70 in good shape and another one slightly dented for $45 here in the classifieds.

They have a couple of classic VW car shows in Denver. One is Volkswagen on the Green that I went to one time. Good turnout and large swap meet.

Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:33 am

My tins are powder coated also. It will look fine painted gloss black rustoleum matches up well with the powder. If you went with black powder.

Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:37 am

Juanito - i cleaned mine with purple power, stripped it, primered and painted it gloss black.

I don't remember if I used rustoleum engine enamel or just glossy rustoluem.

Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:36 am

It seems that heat without the oil is still bad for the fibers.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092666901000350X

That does it! I'm painting the darn thing! I still might have the body with the snorkel and the clips and flaps power coated though.

Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:03 am

All my tins are powdercoated gloss black. I recently powder coated the BOTTOM half of an oil bath, then used the Rustoleum "Painter's touch 2x" gloss black to paint the top half of the oil bath. It is a VERY close match. There is a pic in my gallery...

Is is true though about powder coating the top half filter element, the coir inside burns up, turns to dust....

Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:20 am

Hello,

Im new here. From the uk with a 71 1300 beetle. I want to put an oil bath back on but the one i have appears to be missing a tube from the top, which i want to know where, when i replace it, it goes to. like wise with the other one. I guess what i need is a picture of where all the relevant tubes go.

Ive got the one with the pre heat pipe.

Glad to be here peeps. hope i don't sound to dumb and somebody can help.

Thanks

Brett

Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:34 am

Welcome - are you describing a filter like the one in the picture I posted above? If so, that's a '72-only (USA spec at least) oil bath. I know Rock Auto sells the thermostatic valve that goes in the top half and may account for your missing "tubes."

You can probably find a correct '71 oil bath filter in the classifieds. It had a wax pellet thermostatic valve along the FRONT-facing side of the snout.

Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:15 pm

vamram wrote: Welcome - are you describing a filter like the one in the picture I posted above? If so, that's a '72-only (USA spec at least) oil bath. I know Rock Auto sells the thermostatic valve that goes in the top half and may account for your missing "tubes."

You can probably find a correct '71 oil bath filter in the classifieds. It had a wax pellet thermostatic valve along the FRONT-facing side of the snout.

Hi vamram...looking into these pieces for my wife's 72 now...I tried searching on Rockauto for that "thermostatic valve" and turned up a blank. Would you happen to have a link handy? Thanks!

Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:29 pm

Juanito84 wrote: It seems that heat without the oil is still bad for the fibers.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092666901000350X

That does it! I'm painting the darn thing! I still might have the body with the snorkel and the clips and flaps power coated though.

You CAN actually powder coat them. You can ask them to do it a lower temp. We've done many of them this way. Spray paint chips, etc. It's the only way to go.

Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:08 am

hey, I have a 68' and i would like to put an oil bath air filter back onto it, but i cant find a decent filter. right now i have a 72' USA filter with pre-heat on it, any sugjestions on where to find one?