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aerosilver Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:33 am

Nice vintage slide of an Amazon cabriolet, same as 58-59 Ghia cabriolet.



(Apologies if a repost, I did a quick search and couldn't see it)

56TIMOTEO Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:51 am

Beautiful Kab, wonder if it still exists?!!

BulliBill Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:31 pm

I'd love to see any and all photos you might have of your (or someone else's) L-333 Pearl Blue metallic Beetle Kabriolett.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/57_color_book/22.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/57_color_book/23.jpg

This L-333 color was introduced in Dec of 1956 which was mid-1957 model year. It's kind of similar but a little deeper in Blue to the earlier L-232 Iris Blue. I'm I'm guessing L-333 replaced the long running (May 1954 thru Dec 1956) L-232 Iris Blue metallic seen below:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/57_color_book/32.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/57_color_book/33.jpg

And if anyone has recently had a supplier make from formula some L-333 paint I'd love to know more about that. I'm thinking of painting my late 1957 Oval Kabriolett in this Pearl Blue metallic color. Thanks for posting your photos here!

Bill

2Dokas Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:14 pm

Hi All,

I am almost done with my top mechanism and wanted to ask if the rear metal bow was solid or a tube. It looks solid from the images I have seen.

I made a jig using a 59 bow but they used a round tube, the attachment point is higher up the other bar so its shorter in height.

The jig worked great, along with a forge :D

I could also use another image:

This same bow from the rear, showing the funny curve inward, I have the curve from the side pretty well drawn out.

thanks

Peter


thanks

Peter

BulliBill Sat Mar 30, 2024 9:15 am

I have two Oval Beetle Kabriolett roof frames deep in storage for an upcoming project, not sure whether these photos from a few years back will help...









The fully restored and black powder-coated frame I bought from Chuck's Convertibles way back in 1995 or so when I originally purchased the project Kabriolett. I'm no so sure that the black frame is "correct" for my 1957 Kabriolett?

I bought the OG paint used frame at the Seattle Vintage VW meet around 1998 or so because it was too good of a deal to pass up. It appears to be correct.

Hopefully these shots might help?

Bill

2Dokas Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:38 am

Thanks Bill,

Does the bow appear to be a solid bar or round tube? If its easy to access tap it with a hammer unless its finished the correct color :D

These are helpful, thanks

I am looking for a close up of the junction of the round to the flat looking from behind the car towards the front windshield.

I am going to bend a solid one using a forge next Saturday in my ornamental welding class, just in case or just for fun.

thanks

Peter

2Dokas Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:33 am

Okay, so the bow is tubular and I have a decent one ready to go.

kaieric Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:37 am

56Cabrio wrote: soldeli wrote:
1) on a 56' vert, am i supposed to have a switch for the dome light when the top is open like on this pic :
.. My car does not have this switch and i think it's right but want to be sure.
Christophe.
The switch is so when your top is down the light does not go on.
More pics of my switch.
Top open

top down

Bracket & switch.

it's exactly how mine is looking like. unfortunally wires are loose and i would like to know how they are linked to the dome light.

in this picture, two wires for the bracket are coming from the main harness,two from the rear to be linked to the dome light.
now, bracket wiring isn't mentioned in the wiring diagramm. how does it work? suggestions warmly appreciated!

56Cabrio Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:12 am

This might help, a post from lovethatconvertible





https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=641862&highlight=convertible+dome+light

Busstom Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:45 pm

So early verts actually had a "dome" light in the top? Or is this the light that's integrated into the mirror assy? (Or did early verts not have that type of mirror/light? :-k )

BulliBill Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:32 pm

Split and Oval Beetle Kabrioletts indeed had their interior dome light assembly attached to the inner surface of the headliner/convertible frame above the rear seat passengers and did not have it built into the mirror assembly. That happened much later n the 1960's square rear window eras.

Bill

Busstom Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:53 pm

Ahh, very interesting, thanks. It didn't make sense to me that a switch would disable a mirror-mounted light, since we still need illumination at night when the top is down. The mirror-mounted light in my '68 convertible was quite ineffective.

kaieric Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:30 am

@56cabrio - tks for clarification! now i must see if red wire to the cutoff bracket is connected to the frontal fuse box and all wires are undamaged.

BulliBill Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:25 am

I did a little light searching thru many of these pages as well as the FAQ and so far I didn't find an answer. I'm wondering if the "elbows" for relocating air cleaners for Okrasa engines that Ricardo or W.W. sell will work to relocate the air cleaners when used in the engine compartment of an Oval Beetle Kabriolett with a stock Kabriolett engine decklid with its rain catcher/drains intact. Ricardo mentions that his elbows are correct for a K. Ghia, but there was no mention in the ad as to whether they work on a Okrasa engine and clear the rain catchers in an Oval Beetle Kabriolett. W.W. says in their ad: "these elbows allow installation of the dual port 36hp engine kit for VW truck models, Karmann models, Ghias, and Coachbuilt models." Do you think that "Karmann models" mean Oval Beetle Kabrioletts? Has anyone tried the elbows successfully? Any photos and reviews?

Thanks for any info and guidance!

Bill

ronjonlasvegas Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:05 am

BulliBill wrote: I did a little light searching thru many of these pages as well as the FAQ and so I far didn't find an answer. I'm wondering if the "elbows" for relocating air cleaners for Okrasa engines that Ricardo or W.W. sell will work to relocate the air cleaners when used in the engine compartment of a Oval Beetle Kabriolett with a stock engine decklid with its rain catcher/drains intact. Ricardo mentions that his elbows are correct for a K. Ghia, but there was no mention in the ad as to whether they work on a Okrasa engine and clear the rain catchers in an Oval Beetle Kabriolett. W.W. says in their ad: "these elbows allow installation of the dual port 36hp engine kit for VW truck models, Karmann models, Ghias, and Coachbuilt models." Do you think that "Karmann models" mean Oval Beetle Kabrioletts? Has anyone tried the elbows successfully? Any photos and reviews?

Thanks for any info and guidance!



Bill

Hi Bill,

There is a 1956 Oval convertible in the September 2024 Hot VW's magazine and it has a Wolfsburg West Okrasa kit. The decklid has the rain catchers and he is using the elbows like what is used on a Karmann Ghia.

BulliBill Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:39 am

Thanks "RonJon" for the tip on the air cleaner "elbows" used on the feature Kabriolett in the Sept 2024 issue of Hot VWs magazine. I see that he is using a pair of those "mushroom" type air cleaners. I am hoping that these elbows might be a solution to running an Okrasa carb kit on an Oval Kabrio with the metal rain catchers on the decklid. It sounds like CSP in Europe, Wolfsburg West and Ricardo down in Argentina make versions of these elbows. But so far I don't think that any of those providers has mentioned that their elbows will fit and work well in an Oval Kabriolett engine compartment using a stock Oval Kabrio decklid with stock metal rain catchers.

It was great to see the one photo showing the engine compartment and someone's elbow products. The owner is Mauricio Vargas of SoCal. He's a GFK member. I'd sure love to chat with him briefly about his experience with these elbows. Did they need any alteration to work well in the Kabrio? Whose version of the elbows did he choose to purchase? Does he have any advice, etc.? Mauricio, if by chance you are on here, please pm me, or if anyone knows him, please hook us up for a few simple questions. I suspect that the elbows will be a solution for me also, but I don't want to spend about $400 to find out that it might or might not work.

Thanks everyone!

Bill Bowman

splitpartsunlimited Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:06 pm

what years those interior light top switches were used ??

ronjonlasvegas Sun Oct 06, 2024 10:20 am

Who else on here tried to reach out to the owner after this ad was posted for a 1954 convertible beetle for $18k. I was one. I guess Kevin Zagar was the lucky one who was able to purchase it. He posted these pictures on Facebook yesterday. Keven said the seller was overwhelmed and had over 100 people reply back to the ad within the first 24 hours. Here is a link to the ad with no pictures.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2706115

Here are the pictures Kevin posted online.







Bugfan-MR Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:40 am

BulliBill wrote: I have two Oval Beetle Kabriolett roof frames deep in storage for an upcoming project, not sure whether these photos from a few years back will help...

Bill

Hey Bill,

which book is that page taken from - the one with the break-up of convertible top?

Best,
Marc

BulliBill Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:14 am

Hi Marc,

It is from the VW Service Workshop manual (edition 1952/57) issued to VW dealerships for the Oval era Beetles, in the "Body" section, chapter 11, page 2.

Bill



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