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69vwbuggy Mon May 11, 2009 11:48 am

I want to paint some parts flat black. I have experimented and it looks good but when I apply clear coat is gives it a look that I don't like. I have read about flar clear but am having a hard time finding it. Can someone help me locate it?

zteca Mon May 11, 2009 12:12 pm

I am no expert but here is a link to House of Kolor a flattening agent for the clear.
http://www.houseofkolor.com/hok/products/specialty.jsp.
Never used it so I cant vouch for that also try hot rod flatz, here is the link
http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflatz.aspx
I hope that helps

Lidpainter Mon May 11, 2009 4:08 pm

zteca wrote: I am no expert but here is a link to House of Kolor a flattening agent for the clear.
http://www.houseofkolor.com/hok/products/specialty.jsp.
Never used it so I cant vouch for that also try hot rod flatz, here is the link
http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflatz.aspx
I hope that helps
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You might also look for Dupont Hot Hues' "Hot Rod Black".

jzjames Mon May 11, 2009 10:54 pm

So why would you spray clearcoat over flat black? Isnt that defeating the purpose? If youve got just some parts, try Duplicolor Engine Enamel, semi-gloss black. It is real durable, doesnt chip or scratch, and you dont need all kinds of primer under it. FWIW.

69vwbuggy Tue May 12, 2009 6:51 am

I want the clear coat to keep it from fading in the sun and to protect in from chemicals that might get on them. Besides, I may just paint the whole car and the smaller parts will be a good test.

royDHPNM Tue May 12, 2009 2:11 pm

are we talking rattle cans?? if so try a satin clear, found at like Autozone, they even have it in the high heat engine paint.
if you are talking real paint job, then flattening agents can be added to the clear.
powder coating is probably your best bet, but is costly of course

MTCOLORS Wed May 13, 2009 3:51 pm

69vwbuggy wrote: I want to paint some parts flat black. I have experimented and it looks good but when I apply clear coat is gives it a look that I don't like. I have read about flar clear but am having a hard time finding it. Can someone help me locate it?


Add flatting agent to the black AND the clear....
The more you add to the clear the duller the black appears.

Hope this helps..

MTCOLORS Wed May 13, 2009 3:53 pm

jzjames wrote: So why would you spray clearcoat over flat black? Isnt that defeating the purpose? If youve got just some parts, try Duplicolor Engine Enamel, semi-gloss black. It is real durable, doesnt chip or scratch, and you dont need all kinds of primer under it. FWIW.


These are single stage ( no clear applied over ) paints. The "clear" is already added in you can say.

Madtat Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:20 am

Try using an aresol can of Matt Finish. I use it on alot of flat black parts and it provides a clear flat finish tht will not "gloss up" your flat black paint. I purchase it at local hobby and craft stores

sharkskinman Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:28 pm

Black Primer Is MATTE FINISH
But if you like you can try this


I bought some of this at Home Depot
Used to be like 2-2.50$
but now its just over 3$
(--the 2X covers great--AND they have Primer thats 2X coverage also--)

I have used it on a set of old ford Tractor headlights
and will probably put it on The Bare Metal of my car

this is without



will probably have some after pics After Bug Out

VintageVulture Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:08 pm

Rattle can clearcoat on bare metal??? I say NO... That's going to rust soon no matter how dry your climate.

I've sprayed a lot of different matte and flattening additives mixed in many different types of automotive grade paints. Nearly every paint company has their own version. Single stage, clearcoats, enamels, urethanes- it's all farely simple. Check with your local paint supplier, they have most of the answers.

sharkskinman Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:03 pm

well ill tell ya
i took it down to that stage about 2 or 3 days ago(total of about 2 weeks)

and the only Rust colored stuff i see (i havent clear coated yet)
is where my oily dirty fingers touched

Understand the body on this square is TRASHED

It would be better to buy a whole other car and switch bodies

So i dont give a crap about this one

Man if ya'll saw ALL the rust and Crappy repair jobs on the car
MOST of you wouldnt have bought it

Let me tell you something
the PO Is Lucky as hell i gave him money before i looked to far into it
OR it would of sat there and completed the rusting

rust
nuts and bolts missing( like one whole side of the body to pan bolts)
rockers tacked in :x

I Tell You


Just a travesty

But what ya gonna do but Drive n' Love them :roll: :D



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