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Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:49 am

Oil is leaking out behind the oil pump where it touches the motor....

How do i get the oil pump off?

Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:06 pm

Your message is a little cryptic? I am not sure what you are talking about here.

Pics might help?

Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:57 pm

I need to know how to pull the oil pump out of the motor..there is oil leaking between the plate and the case.

Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:33 pm

They are right is here is what you need

Oil Pump Puller
Oil Pump Puller Price: $4.99
Code: BP7014

Shipping Weight: 1.00 pounds

Quantity:

The Correct Way To Remove The Oil Pump In Order To Avoid Damage To Case Or Pump. Remove Gears, Insert Tool And Tighten Nut Then The Pump Comes Out Of The Case Easily. For All Type 1 Oil Pumps.

They can be found at any bug shop.

Here is a link
http://www.vwparts.net/BP7014.html

Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:47 pm

So i need that puller... do i remove the cover and gears or?

Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:53 pm

You remove the covers and gears. With it all together you set the "t" in the pump and turn it till it is firmly seated in the oil galleries. Turn the nut and its out. 2 new gaskets and you are on the road.

Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:59 pm

An you just tap it back in or?

Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:01 pm

I use a small mallet and tap it back in gently. This is a really easy job and you will realize it once you get into it.

I have never done this on an engine with oil in it but I would assume you would drain the oil first.

Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:05 pm

Thanks man... now to locate the puller.... we leave in about an hour and a half.. didnt notice the leak until we warmed it up to get it on the trailer... so hopefully we can locate one...

Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:37 pm

forget that puller...

Do you know how to take the pulley off?
once thats off, remover the pump cover loosen the bolts above and below the pump. check the sides of the pump these two flanges, or tabs. use a screw driver or prey bars. top and bottom. the pump will slide right out

those empi pullers are made wrong one screw up and the pump is history.

Be damn sure you put the right gaskets in the right place.. thich one between the pump and case.. Thin one between the cover and the pump no sealer at the cover

Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:02 pm

towd wrote: forget that puller...

Do you know how to take the pulley off?
once thats off, remover the pump cover loosen the bolts above and below the pump. check the sides of the pump these two flanges, or tabs. use a screw driver or prey bars. top and bottom. the pump will slide right out

those empi pullers are made wrong one screw up and the pump is history.

Be damn sure you put the right gaskets in the right place.. thich one between the pump and case.. Thin one between the cover and the pump no sealer at the cover

Dont do this :shock: .... magnesium is a very soft metal and there is a good chance of gouging it and you will have a hell of a time getting it to seal again if you do.

Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:24 pm

shred625 wrote: They are right is here is what you need

That answer is a bit cryptic too.

:lol: sorry, couldn't resist.

Jokes aside, the answer is correct.

Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:30 pm

If think you must pry stop. Cut a little notch in the left and right sides of the pump and gently tap it out. My puller is home made and works great. If your leak persists even after the case and pump are clean wipe a VERY VERY thin film of silicone on both sides of the block gasket. I use Ultra black and it appears as a transparent smear not a bead. Tighten the case and pump nuts in steps and evenly to get a good seal. Torque to spec. If it leaks from the cover you can wet sand the cover and pump body on a piece of flat glass with 400 grit sand paper.

Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:36 am

Yea My puller is home made too

Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:15 am

jakeddy wrote: shred625 wrote: They are right is here is what you need

That answer is a bit cryptic too.

:lol: sorry, couldn't resist.

Jokes aside, the answer is correct.

Just trying to help a brutha out with my extensive command of the english language! :lol:

Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:35 am

sometimes I just have to laugh my ass off at you guys..

Pumps are not made of magnesium ..why do you think the tabs are cast into the pump ??
Why has no one said a thing about loosening the top and bottom case bolts at the pump ?
The word PRY does not indicate, using a tire Bar and a 6 foot pipe.
I'll say this, if you don't know how to remove a VW oil pump without that puller, you havn't done many VW engines.

Butt then I don't shit. I've only been at this since 1963

Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:01 am

towd wrote: sometimes I just have to laugh my ass off at you guys..

Pumps are not made of magnesium ..why do you think the tabs are cast into the pump ??
Why has no one said a thing about loosening the top and bottom case bolts at the pump ?
The word PRY does not indicate, using a tire Bar and a 6 foot pipe.
I'll say this, if you don't know how to remove a VW oil pump without that puller, you havn't done many VW engines.

Butt then I don't shit. I've only been at this since 1963

From one old man to an older old man, Laughter is great medicine.
You must be getting old you already told him to loosen the case bolts above and below the case in your first post :) . Sorry I could not resist.
Many pumps no longer have the tangs cast in them. Your right there is pry, Pry and PRY just like tap, Tap and TAP. He could be lucky to have the one someone decide to use half a tube of silicone to install. For that problem removing the four oil pump studs and rotate the pump a little clockwise and counter clockwise after loosening the adjacent case studs might be best. I bet the pump was in and out faster than all the time we have been BSenings on this Samba post. Nathan were we of any help?
By the way Happy Fathers Day to the Samba dads.

Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:54 pm

yep, to old to take crap. off some that where not alive while these POS cars where in production .. :lol: and don't have a clue what a new VW even looked like.

example. the guy who said he work for a vw dealership, the job was washing cusmoline off new cars.. Hmmmmm ,, wonder what kind of car came packed in cusmoline .. in fact I wonder how many have ever really seen that shit.

Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:25 pm

POS is so harsh I prefer ultimate money maker.

Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:30 am

towd wrote: yep, to old to take crap. off some that where not alive while these POS cars where in production .. :lol: and don't have a clue what a new VW even looked like.

example. the guy who said he work for a vw dealership, the job was washing cusmoline off new cars.. Hmmmmm ,, wonder what kind of car came packed in cusmoline .. in fact I wonder how many have ever really seen that shit.

I thought the last type 1 was produced on 30 July 2003 :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Beetle

I am a year older than my car and remember a large VW dealership around Dayton or Columbus that was always FULL of new beetles as a kid. 8)