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Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:15 pm

Mine took like seriously 6months before I got my Tags and metal plates .. It was a nightmare. combined time 11months . Hope you guys dont have to suffer.

Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:15 pm

BarryL wrote: If you have to have the year sticker then where does the month go?

Wouldn't it go on the other side of the plate where the month always goes?

Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:39 pm

BarryL wrote: If you have to have the year sticker then where does the month go?

It seems the plate is frozen for the year, month on the left, year on the right. The DMV is supposed to supply the metal tag to attach to the plate for the current registration sticker.

Has anyone been told they need some kind of reflector on the plate??

Also, is there a list of what years had what series?? Like aaa-??? plates went to 1963, ???-??? for 1964 etc.

Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:27 pm

This is the rear plate that I took in. I believe that in Sacramento they will formalize bm registration and send me stickers.

Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:39 pm

derluftwagen wrote: BarryL wrote: If you have to have the year sticker then where does the month go?

It seems the plate is frozen for the year, month on the left, year on the right. The DMV is supposed to supply the metal tag to attach to the plate for the current registration sticker.

Has anyone been told they need some kind of reflector on the plate??

Also, is there a list of what years had what series?? Like aaa-??? plates went to 1963, ???-??? for 1964 etc.

Not exactly sure on the specifics, but I'm gonna try to keep 'em as clean as I can. I like these cause they look clean http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=803512

There is a list on either this or some other website that tells what the sequences were, keep in mind that it wasn't an exact science though. Some of the license plate collectors websites are an invaluable source of info (search for ALPCA).

Never heard about the reflector thing, although I think there was originally some issues with the YOM program because the plates were not reflective like newer ones.

Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:09 am

bushaus wrote: Never heard about the reflector thing, although I think there was originally some issues with the YOM program because the plates were not reflective like newer ones.

The only reason I mention it is because in one of the pics I saw the owner said he had a bike reflector on the plate per state law. Is there a real law or urban legend?? Anyone ever get a ticket for no reflector on plate?

Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:35 am

has anyone ever used one of those aluminum replacement "show" plates that are available, or seen any?? they state on the site, 6x12, similar but not exact to original plates. A buddy of mine is missing a front plate after the body shop threw away the front bumper with the plate still attached :roll:

Its an original black plate car and would be a shame to get another set of plates instead of keeping the original number on the car.

Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:11 am

Did a google search and came up with an Ebay guide of all things that had all the info summerized nicely.

Do a search of

DMV Clear California License Plates 1951 1956 1963 YOM

Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:44 pm

Me again...

I just found this post in a mercury forum:

IMPORTANT: DMV is asking (requiring?) that your YOM Black plates be correct year/letter range for your year vehicle. So, make sure your 63-69 Black plates correspond with your year vehicle. My research has shown the 1963-69 year-by-year, letter allocation breakdown has some overlap, but generally plates BEGINNING with the following letters correspond to the year of issue: ABCD= 1963, EFGHI=1964, JKLMN=1965, OPQRS=1966, TUVW=1967, WXYZ=1968-69. .

Has anyone been asked to have the correct range of plate for the year of the vehicle or just that you have the correct sticker? Also do they verify that the sticker is "clear" as well?

Ive seen some reproduction stickers, has anyone tried to use one of those?

Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:03 pm

derluftwagen wrote: Me again...

I just found this post in a mercury forum:

IMPORTANT: DMV is asking (requiring?) that your YOM Black plates be correct year/letter range for your year vehicle. So, make sure your 63-69 Black plates correspond with your year vehicle. My research has shown the 1963-69 year-by-year, letter allocation breakdown has some overlap, but generally plates BEGINNING with the following letters correspond to the year of issue: ABCD= 1963, EFGHI=1964, JKLMN=1965, OPQRS=1966, TUVW=1967, WXYZ=1968-69. .

Has anyone been asked to have the correct range of plate for the year of the vehicle or just that you have the correct sticker? Also do they verify that the sticker is "clear" as well?

Ive seen some reproduction stickers, has anyone tried to use one of those?

My black plates started with a D and are for my '63 (which looks to be the correct sequence), but there was no mention of number/year sequence by the DMV employee. He did say that "if they turn them down in Sacramento, you can reregister your personal plates"...maybe that is why he let me keep them. Hope not.

Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:27 pm

I do not think that the letters ABC were for '63 or DEF were for '64, etc. I remember when the '63 plates came out, my friend's parents car got issued new '63 plates in 1963 that had the letter/number combo of PLM 915 and his grandparents got PLN 454 (I have a good memory for trivial things like that)....This was in Huntington Beach. I think that different regions of the state of California got different letter/number combinations. So in my opinion it shouldn't matter what letter/number combos you have as long as you have two and they are clear!

Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:03 pm

derluftwagen wrote: Me again...

I just found this post in a mercury forum:

IMPORTANT: DMV is asking (requiring?) that your YOM Black plates be correct year/letter range for your year vehicle. So, make sure your 63-69 Black plates correspond with your year vehicle. My research has shown the 1963-69 year-by-year, letter allocation breakdown has some overlap, but generally plates BEGINNING with the following letters correspond to the year of issue: ABCD= 1963, EFGHI=1964, JKLMN=1965, OPQRS=1966, TUVW=1967, WXYZ=1968-69. .

Has anyone been asked to have the correct range of plate for the year of the vehicle or just that you have the correct sticker? Also do they verify that the sticker is "clear" as well?

Ive seen some reproduction stickers, has anyone tried to use one of those?

I don't know where these idiots come from, trying to make the process more difficult than it is. I think they just make up urban legends like this as a way of amusing themselves.

The DMV follows the vehicle code, which is easily searched online. The vehicle code makes no mention of letter series for particular years.

It really couldn't because plates throughout the LLL-### series were issued to every vehicle on the road and to all new vehicle in '63 and '64! After that they issued plates in sequential order, but there were no alphabet cutoffs on Dec 31 of each year. What did they expect, the DMV to throw away a stack of unused plates because they started with the wrong letter? :roll:

Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:00 pm

GeorgeL wrote: It really couldn't because plates throughout the LLL-### series were issued to every vehicle on the road and to all new vehicle in '63 and '64! After that they issued plates in sequential order, but there were no alphabet cutoffs on Dec 31 of each year. What did they expect, the DMV to throw away a stack of unused plates because they started with the wrong letter? :roll:

I kind of wondered about the claim. I have two cars purchased from original owners with the original plates. One is a 65 suburban with an REW plate and an aug 63 bug with a JGK plate. The sub was purchased local at College Chev and the bug was in glendale at Redall Brothers. I also have a 60 bug I got from the second owner that has a GIT plate, the owner said he had it since 1964.

What was the deal with the LLL plates? What do you mean "all vehicles on the road"? Does this mean all yellow plate cars got LLL plates? Doesnt make sense that the plates would be stamped out of order :?

I used to issue license tags for the county and would get what ever series the main office sent us. For the high volume offices they would go thru a lot of tags and get weird batches but they were still in sequential order. For example i would get tags starting with b-e anther office f-i, they sold more licenses and would get m-o as their next batch. I was still issuing b tags while they issued o all within the same 4 months. :shock:

Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:31 pm

GeorgeL wrote: derluftwagen wrote: Me again...

I just found this post in a mercury forum:

IMPORTANT: DMV is asking (requiring?) that your YOM Black plates be correct year/letter range for your year vehicle. So, make sure your 63-69 Black plates correspond with your year vehicle. My research has shown the 1963-69 year-by-year, letter allocation breakdown has some overlap, but generally plates BEGINNING with the following letters correspond to the year of issue: ABCD= 1963, EFGHI=1964, JKLMN=1965, OPQRS=1966, TUVW=1967, WXYZ=1968-69. .

Has anyone been asked to have the correct range of plate for the year of the vehicle or just that you have the correct sticker? Also do they verify that the sticker is "clear" as well?

Ive seen some reproduction stickers, has anyone tried to use one of those?

I don't know where these idiots come from, trying to make the process more difficult than it is. I think they just make up urban legends like this as a way of amusing themselves.

The DMV follows the vehicle code, which is easily searched online. The vehicle code makes no mention of letter series for particular years.

It really couldn't because plates throughout the LLL-### series were issued to every vehicle on the road and to all new vehicle in '63 and '64! After that they issued plates in sequential order, but there were no alphabet cutoffs on Dec 31 of each year. What did they expect, the DMV to throw away a stack of unused plates because they started with the wrong letter? :roll:

That can't be right. That's only 1000 cars. That's less than a days total vehicle sales.

T

Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:24 pm

I also remember a friend that had a '56 VW that was purchased new in California, never left the state and was issued plate number MQS 704 in 1963, I had a '51 Chevy that also never left California with the plate number GHM 752 and I had a '63 VW camper with MVA 667....So to me ANY letter number combo is correct!

Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:43 pm

I think by LLL he means Letter, Letter, Letter.

Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:50 pm

Nitty wrote: I think by LLL he means Letter, Letter, Letter.

D'oh....got it. Ive seen several dealers at pomona that have the yellow plates broken down by year. Was it a different situation with the yellow plates or more myth? The more I search the more inconsistencies I notice.

Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:06 pm

In 1955 my Mom bought a new Plymouth and in '56 we got plates with the letter/number NKZ 597, so I think it was the same with the '56 plates as well as the '63 plates, it depended on where you lived, not when the car was registered.

Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:09 pm

derluftwagen wrote: has anyone ever used one of those aluminum replacement "show" plates that are available, or seen any?? they state on the site, 6x12, similar but not exact to original plates. A buddy of mine is missing a front plate after the body shop threw away the front bumper with the plate still attached :roll:

Its an original black plate car and would be a shame to get another set of plates instead of keeping the original number on the car.

I'm curious about this too. I have one of the originals from my car and am wondering if DMV would allow me to use it on the rear with a reproduction on the front. Does anyone have experience with that? Thanks!

-Jon

Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:57 pm

Jonb442 wrote: derluftwagen wrote: has anyone ever used one of those aluminum replacement "show" plates that are available, or seen any?? they state on the site, 6x12, similar but not exact to original plates. A buddy of mine is missing a front plate after the body shop threw away the front bumper with the plate still attached :roll:

Its an original black plate car and would be a shame to get another set of plates instead of keeping the original number on the car.

I'm curious about this too. I have one of the originals from my car and am wondering if DMV would allow me to use it on the rear with a reproduction on the front. Does anyone have experience with that? Thanks!

-Jon

I know a guy who had a repro black plate made to replace his missing front plate. It looked dead on. The only difference I could see was that the back of the plate was yellow instead of black. And apparently, the guy can't legally ship them into California for some reason.