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Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:11 am

I did a search, Didnt really see any infos.

I have a ribbed door semaphore car, unknown year, how can i tell if its a 2 fold or 3?

Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:05 am

Jim, would it be helpful to measure the size of the opening front to back? I have a 3 fold car here and could put a tape measurer on it.

Dustin

Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:37 am

52brezelfenster wrote: Jim, would it be helpful to measure the size of the opening front to back? I have a 3 fold car here and could put a tape measurer on it.

Dustin

Is it known that the front to back opening changed in dimension?

Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:51 am

Yes, it did, the two fold became shorter. I don't have the exact dimensions but I believe the 3 fold was about 48" and the two fold about 36"

Dave

Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:00 am

just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions

Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:09 pm

john7 wrote: just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions

so its perfectly square??

Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:11 pm

Fastest way is to see if there is a straight little metal lip at the front of it all the way across if it's more of a rounded hump then it's 2 fold.

Jim send me a pic and I can help you out.

Fri Aug 14, 2009 1:06 pm

john7 wrote: just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions

I have a 1959 2 fold here in the garage, no trim, no mechanism and it measures......

29 3/16" wide on the inside lip where the headliner would connect

36 " long at the center, also where the headliner would connect

Both of these dimensions can vary a little depending upon how bent in or how far out the metal teeth that grip the headliner are. By vary I mean maybe an 1/8" max either way.

The 59 2 fold hole is for sure the same hole as the LATE (3rd version) 56 2 fold roof. I am not sure about the 2 earlier 56 versions and what their exact dimensions are. I suspect the 2nd version has the same size as the 3rd but am not 100% sure.

Dave

Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:27 pm

vdubjim wrote: john7 wrote: just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions

so its perfectly square??

???? no :D

Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:28 pm

vdubjim wrote: john7 wrote: just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions

so its perfectly square??

no look at the measurements i posted again, maybe you mis read them. it is 12 3/4" longer than it is wide

Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:35 pm

djkeev wrote: john7 wrote: just happen to have one in front of me
the 3 fold hole measure 45 3/4 x 33"
straight accross the middle both directions

I have a 1959 2 fold here in the garage, no trim, no mechanism and it measures......

29 3/16" wide on the inside lip where the headliner would connect

36 " long at the center, also where the headliner would connect

Both of these dimensions can vary a little depending upon how bent in or how far out the metal teeth that grip the headliner are. By vary I mean maybe an 1/8" max either way.

The 59 2 fold hole is for sure the same hole as the LATE (3rd version) 56 2 fold roof. I am not sure about the 2 earlier 56 versions and what their exact dimensions are. I suspect the 2nd version has the same size as the 3rd but am not 100% sure.

Dave

i measured on the outside of the car with no mechanism installed on a 55 bug. edge to edge right in the center of the hole each direction.(front to back and side to side)

from inside the car the hole measures 43 1/2 x 29

i dont have a 2 fold car around to measure

Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:41 pm

john7 wrote:

i measured on the outside of the car with no mechanism installed on a 55 bug. edge to edge right in the center of the hole each direction.(front to back and side to side)

from inside the car the hole measures 43 1/2 x 29

i dont have a 2 fold car around to measure

Using the above system on the 59 2 fold roof......

33 1/8" wide

38 1/8" long

Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:18 pm

A pic taken at BBT. We see the difference in size.

Claude

Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:27 pm

johnshenry wrote: 52brezelfenster wrote: Jim, would it be helpful to measure the size of the opening front to back? I have a 3 fold car here and could put a tape measurer on it.

Dustin

Is it known that the front to back opening changed in dimension?
I think you should have to go back and repeat a semester of "Oval Window 101".