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Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:00 pm

Here is GW repair idea for the stock plastic pipe problem TC was talking about about. I am thinking about doing this on mine just as a preventive thing.

http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3643&category_id=&category_parent_id=

Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:26 am

<<BUT- I have BIG issues with the "constant torque" clamps--
These things are the "official" clamp for silicone hoses, and I have lots of them . BUT- every year, when the temp drops colder, they ALL loosen and leak like crazy. I now have them cranked very tightly . They are supposed to be torqued to some specific value( which I have no clue....), and yet they LEAK when cold. Work fine all summer...... Anyone else use these things? >>

These constant torque clamps are used on the inlet & outlet of semi innercooler's & turbo's--only 4"-5" diameter, and onto aluminum tubes with silicone unions.
The clamps are the best, stock issue on every truck I've ever come into contact with , and they are always tight as a fat ladies socks--and stay that way.
Turbo boost pressures are far beyond what your coolant lines are running at--so I'd apply some more armstrong torque on the clamps--they will stay tight once they are on there right.

Good clamps by the way--the best.

Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:49 pm

I'm kinda' new here and this is a little perpendicular to the topic, but does Terry Kay ever provide any positive input? I'm just saying . . .

Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:03 pm

<<I'm kinda' new here and this is a little perpendicular to the topic, but does Terry Kay ever provide any positive input? >>

You haven't been paying too much attention, or read the whole thread.

<<I'm just saying . . .>>

I'm just saying if you skip de da doo da on a couple of retorts, your not getting behind the entire idea.

Those double wrapped stainless clamps are the best your buck can buy---And I'm sticking to that.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:13 am

:)

I am trying to decide what is best for my application.

I plan on a 6 cyl upgrade and am pretty sure I need the flow of 1 1/2in dia tubes.

RMW pipes seem to be the best choice, although I would prefer to have Aluminum over SS if available.

Does anyone have photos of their SS pipes installed? Do they run thru the crossmembers as the original plastic ones?

Could someone post pics or email them to me?

Edit: I contacted RMW but no photos yet. The area I am concerned with is above the gastank. I am thinking of modifying the tank for a cleanout port for the screen inside and eliminating some of the dip in the center of the tank, if there is enough pipe clearance. With the screen accessible, I could remove it to have the tank galvanized.

Len

:)

Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:18 am

RMW mentioned that they might be producing the AL pipes soooner than later. Check with them and see if the pipe availability is within your project timeline. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=448044&start=20
I have RMW SS pipes on one of my syncros and they go exactly where the stock pipes install. They are a really nice product.

Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:37 pm

<<Does anyone have photos of their SS pipes installed? Do they run thru the crossmembers as the original plastic ones?>>

The pipes slide right into the crossmember as the stock ones do.

<<The area I am concerned with is above the gastank.>>

The pipes should slide right over the top of the gas tank with no problems--as long as they are the two piece pipes--mine do anyway--

Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:33 pm

Why all the talk about these expensive options?
Heck, I did mine with regular old black home that was already in there.
Worked fine for 30+ years, a little weather checked, but hey it was only $40 bucks.

Thank you,

David

Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:46 pm

http://www.greenlinehose.com/_pdf/Marine_2011.pdf

Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:49 am

camerahunter wrote: Why all the talk about these expensive options?
Heck, I did mine with regular old black home that was already in there.
Worked fine for 30+ years, a little weather checked, but hey it was only $40 bucks.

Thank you,

David

Sorry to appear ignorant, :oops: but what is " old black home ?"

I refrain from saying the obvious joke :lol:

Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:56 am

My PO also replaced with "old black home" but around here we spell it "hose"... :wink:

Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:05 am

Quote: Worked fine for 30+ years
You replaced some coolant hoses on a aircooled van when it was brand new? :wink:

Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:33 am

camerahunter wrote: Why all the talk about these expensive options?
Heck, I did mine with regular old black home that was already in there.
Worked fine for 30+ years, a little weather checked, but hey it was only $40 bucks.

Thank you,

David

Well Expensive is relative. By now most of the people that have Vanagons have a lot of money invested in them. So if you have invested $10k or more in a mechanical restoration is $350 expensive?

I agree that the world we live in has lots of places to spend money and I would consider myself "value concious", err Cheap. But I have a hard time getting in your canoe and saying life time stainless steel coolant pipes for $350 are expensive. And it is not even $350 because you are apparently able to buy some hose from somewhere for call it $75, (thinking that you spent $40 30 years ago before watercooled vans were built, I think it is called inflation). So really now the money were talking is $275. Is that really expensive?

So I am biased obviously because I make these. I never try and set myself up here for a grand debate about stuff. I always look for a "cheaper" way. I know people are going to use black hose and I think that is cool. I just think using the argument that the Factory replicas out of a lifetime material is expensive is a silly argument. Just my opinion, not a fact and lord knows this forum has plenty of opinions.

Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:35 pm

I'm LMAO at this hose job thread.

The First, forever, complaint regarding a Wasserleaker is the heads, the second is the amount of hoses that go bad.
Coolant system beifs.

And what do the more frugal (cheap) of the Vanagonite's want to do?
Add more hose--en mass.
Front to rear.
236 inches of it.
Good,sound, brilliant solution.

But yet, they'd spend a grand on 15" wheels & low-pro tires, tubular bumper's that make the Van look like a Euclid, or a high end DVD, CD, TV, Radio combo unit.

That'll make the van run forever--the engine will run cooler too.

Andie,
That's right--as fast as your dirt gets sucked into one side it gets blown out the other.

Perfect annology.
That was put there exclusivly for you.
Glad you grabbed onto that.

Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:11 pm

Well, I still don't know what ""old black home" may designate. Though I almost got enlightened by the chap who calls it ""hose"' instead of home.

Well now I know better, it's hose, would you believe it? :lol: :lol:

Anyway as long as I have this window open, Poor old TK again goes into an invective generalization of van owners habits and customs:
spend a grand on 15" wheels & low-pro tires
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 4 chromed alloy Mercedes 15", with tires, bolts and nuts :arrow: US$150

Tubular bumper :?: :?: What for? The OEM look better and do their thing, cost ZERO

high end DVD, CD, TV, Radio combo unit. :lol: :lol: :lol:
How you ever listened in decent conditions to Rigoletto or the Brandenburgers in a van :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Stereo: cost : ZERO
To listen to quality music I have a B&O at home. And, don't tell me about Nakamishi, Aiwa, or whatever is made in the Rice Bowl, they are UGLY. \:D/

That'll make the van run forever ](*,)

Pilgrim, the van that will run forever has not been invented yet,with or without soooper dooper sssstainless sssssteel pipes :lol:

Now, some poster was very unfair to honorable gentleman TK. He is indeed a valuable asset to this here Samba group, and gives precious information and assistance.
So though I just love to tease him once in awhile, I have a lot of respect for his expertise and willingness to always help. His rethoric does not bother me a bit. I guess coming back from a overseas vacation and being called names helped. :roll:

Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:23 pm

My question has been answered.

Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:55 pm

home=hose.
Good grief, need to proof read these things before posting.
I replaced mine front to back with $30 worth of hose last summer, the same kind that was in here, just brand new.
It will probably outlive the van.

Thank you,

David

Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:20 pm

Reviving this thread with this: https://www.amazon.com/Vibrant-Performance-2048-Longsilicone-Heater/dp/B001QKNJ2E

Does this seem suitable? It seems to check all the boxes, but it's not really an area I want to make any mistakes on. Pricewise its not too bad compared to other options.

Sun May 13, 2018 12:45 pm

Has anyone found a good alternative for the long heater core hoses running to the front?

Sun May 13, 2018 1:54 pm

OldBlueSyncro wrote: Has anyone found a good alternative for the long heater core hoses running to the front?

Those are almost bullet proof.
Do you have a problem with yours?

I replaced mine with new and the old was in darn near perfect shape.

Dave