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scvw Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:09 pm

npbusguy wrote: Hurry up and fix the kombi so we can go for a ride...


Nice pic Neil. Your bus is going to look great when it's done Danny and I love the fact that you plan on using it.

scvw Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:12 pm

campingbox wrote: If Joey drives his standard out to Washington I'll let him use the '57 kit for the weekend.



Oh shit!

Better yet, you will be in my neck of the woods in a few weeks. How about I try it out then. :D

53kombi Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:35 pm

Greg, the square tubing on that seat support reminds me of some other differences between the brochure and museum interiors versus Joe's '54 Camping-Box. The brochure shows round tubing for the seat support, which is also seen on the museum interiors. It seems that (not much)later production kits used square tubing. Also, the way the table attaches to the cabinet is the same for the brochure prototype and the museum interiors, but different on Joe's. The rear cabinet from the museum looks exactly like the one in the brochure, with the same keyed lock mechanism. I am convinced that the factory did a very accurate reproduction of what appeared in the brochure. The prototype in the brochure is a '53 based on the fact that it has no rear bumper, which would have been a standard feature on a '54. All of the information really makes my '53 pre-rear bumper kombi, the correct choice for a period correct build of a prototype replica.

53kombi Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:41 pm

Trust me Joey, you don't want to pay the air freight bill on that thing, if he flies, and has to ship it. You better plan on driving out there, it would be cheaper. Let me know, I will ride along. I have been trying to get out to visit Greg and Clara for a while now. I will distract them, while you load up your bus with lots of early Westy stuff. :shock: Of course, you don't have much of a getaway vehicle, but hey they don't have much of a chase vehicle either, so we might pull it off. :wink:

53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:56 pm

BryanM wrote: that cabinet is perfect for having tea on.

nice score Danny


I think someone beat you to that idea Bryan. :wink:



Jake Martinez Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:21 pm

whats up with the two different style tents in the brochures?

Jake Martinez Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:22 pm

notice the one tent goes over the rack some sort of rain cover for luggage?

Jake Martinez Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:29 pm

what type of belt line trim is that?

53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:32 pm

Two styles of tents were offered with the barndoor Camping-Box. The flat one is just an awning, and has no sides. The larger one is similar to the later split window tents, and had sides that attached. Apparently, the earliest tents, like the one with Greg's '55, were about 12 inches wider than later tents. I am also curious about the function of the part covering the rack. I have seen other promo pics from sales brochures that show a red and white tent with the same feature. Maybe Greg will chime in with some enlightenment on that topic. My guess would be a possible cover for the rack, but it does not appear to cover the whole rack. Perhaps it is a partial cover for items that traveled inside the bus on the road, and were stored while camping on the rack. Just a guess. Greg???

53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:37 pm

I think the beltline trim is a non-vw part that Westfalia used to dress it up. Remember, this is a prototype built to show off the new camper interior. Westfalia often did things with the prototypes for the brochures, that never showed up on production models, or were of differing variations. You can't really use the brochures as gospel for restoring one, but they serve as a good guide. Same probably goes for the solid white tent too, although I have seen an early wider tent that was solid white on an ambulance in a book, so maybe they did offer one.

Jake Martinez Sun Sep 20, 2009 4:56 pm

true on the belt line trim ....they did what every they could to sell there product

scvw Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:46 pm

Are you going to bring the camping kit to CYW to sleep on?

53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:19 pm

Everything is safely stored for now, and not going on tour. Despite being unused, the finish is in need of a little attention. There is some delamination of veneer work on some of the edges, and the finish is thinned in spots from UV exposure. There are also a couple of spots where condensation dripping from pipes above in the museum led to some slight water damage on the top of the main cabinet. I have a team of antique preservation specialists that have checked out the cabinets, and are going to do a museum quality preservation job, to insure that no further damage or wear occurs. The results will preserve the history of the life of the cabinets so far, and renourish the old finish. This will leave them looking as if they have had a really good cleaning, and more resemble how they looked decades ago when they were built. For those of you who are gasping with fear that I will strip them and refinish, put your mind at ease. That is not what I plan to do. The vast majority of the woodwork is like new, and will only be cleaned and sealed. My connections work in the business of repairing and preserving high-end antiques, and routinely work with furniture that is centuries old and worth tons of money. Their focus is preserving the originality of the pieces they work on, while adding years to the life of them. The cabinets will be well cared for, and receive only the treatment they deserve, and will allow for them to be around to be enjoyed for a long time to come. I will post pics of the process, when it gets started.

For those of you that are saying "Those things look great now, I wouldn't do anything to them." They do look very nice in the photos, but there are some small issues that I want to address now, so I don't have any further damage. Remember, I am going after a museum quality preservation, not refinishing them. We will be treading very lightly, and only doing what is necessary. The original finish will be rejuvinated by the process, and they will look as new, but with the history preserved. You will still be able to see the water damaged areas, because that is part of the history of the cabinet, but it will appear somewhat diminished, and will be sealed from moisture. The cabinets deserve a little TLC, and I want my 3 year old son to enjoy these well after I am long gone.

53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:25 pm

How many people just said, "What a lucky kid!" I know I did. 8)

Jake Martinez Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:44 pm

he will have "the barndoor camper" haha as you said years back to me

campingbox Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:50 pm

53kombi wrote: Apparently, the earliest tents, like the one with Greg's '55, were about 12 inches wider than later tents. I am also curious about the function of the part covering the rack. I have seen other promo pics from sales brochures that show a red and white tent with the same feature. Maybe Greg will chime in with some enlightenment on that topic. My guess would be a possible cover for the rack, but it does not appear to cover the whole rack. Perhaps it is a partial cover for items that traveled inside the bus on the road, and were stored while camping on the rack. Just a guess. Greg???

I've never seen a provision for that piece of fabric to cover the rack. My '55's tent doesn't appear to have any place to attach any additional fabric to drape over the bus like that.

Maybe Todd S. has some input?

53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:13 pm

Here is the example I was thinking of. I borrowed it from Everett's VW Facts section on the homepage. No rack on this bus, but you can see the cover flap on the roof. Looks to be a post-barndoor Westy, but early enough to have the wider tent like yours Greg. Maybe it just hooks on to the pole closest to the bus, and doesn't need any special provisions built into the tent. We may have stumbled onto the rarest of the rare westy tent option.


53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:19 pm

Jake Martinez wrote: he will have "the barndoor camper" haha as you said years back to me

Normally that statement wouldn't mean much coming from a 16 year old, but I have known you since you were about 1 or younger. Glad to see you so enthusiastic about VWs, and so hungry for knowledge. I am sure your Dad is proud of you.

Jake Martinez Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:24 pm

and im sure everyone on here thinks im crazy for someone young like me spotting that out haha

53kombi Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:34 pm

I have wondered about it for years, and honestly thought that Greg would have some insight. That's all I need.......something else to research. If anyone out there knows, please fill us in.



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