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Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:01 am

Would anybody know where I could source the little rubber caps (witches hats) that go over the trim clips under the hood on early ovals.I have tried Wolfburg West and West Coast Metric with no luck .Any ideas on who may stock them

Thanks
Ross D

Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:38 am

we have them instock and in nz( vw spares and services rotorua)

SIMON

Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:04 am

I need some also, How much are they and would you ship to the U.S.?
Thanks,
Rich

Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:08 am

www.cip1.com sells what your looking for. They have OE molding clip seals, $30 for 150.

Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:57 pm

I'd be interested in some witch's hats also. I'm curious as to how many a car takes. Ususally you don't see them on restored cars. I've seen them on the hood, but should they cover the 1/4s too?

Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:06 pm

56TIMOTEO wrote: I'd be interested in some witch's hats also. I'm curious as to how many a car takes. Ususally you don't see them on restored cars. I've seen them on the hood, but should they cover the 1/4s too? ditto

Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:49 am

cip 1 $8-$28 for 50

VWC-113-857-219-A50

C24-113-857-219-A150

there you go

Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:31 am

I have 5 used ones that came with some 54 vert parts I bought. I'm guessing that they're just for the hood? Remnants of glue on them.

Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:32 am

Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:34 am

Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:48 am

I'm pretty certain they are used to seal out moisture on all the side trim moulding also. I remember buying a bunch of NOS ones from Cliff Crate in No. Hollywood, CA about 15 years ago for the future resto of my '57 Kabriolett. I seem to recall that later I heard someone or other came out and repro'ed those witches hats, i thought it was WW...

Bill

Tue Sep 29, 2009 7:55 am

thebucket wrote: 56TIMOTEO wrote: I'd be interested in some witch's hats also. I'm curious as to how many a car takes. Ususally you don't see them on restored cars. I've seen them on the hood, but should they cover the 1/4s too? ditto

Yes, the quarters also.

1957 Horizon Blue Oval with 28000 original miles:

The witch's hats for the spaeker block off and ash tray are a different size than those used for the hood and quarter panels.

Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:04 am

Who has some for sale? Please PM me with a price.
Thanks,
Rich

Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:26 am

Hi suboval, is that your Horizon Blue car? Absolutely fantastic!!!!

Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:29 am

They are also used for the interior door panel clips, correct?

EDIT: The molding clips and door panel clips have different sized witch hats.

Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:34 am

Thanks for your replys, sadly the ones CIP sell appear to be the mini witches hats that you poke in to your trim holes first followed by the trim clip :( . So I am still on the hunt for them.
Ross

Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:21 am

Kiwi1966 wrote: Thanks for your replys, sadly the ones CIP sell appear to be the mini witches hats that you poke in to your trim holes first followed by the trim clip :( . So I am still on the hunt for them.
Ross

Are these what you are looking for?

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113857219

Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:03 am

OvalWindowBucket wrote: Kiwi1966 wrote: Thanks for your replys, sadly the ones CIP sell appear to be the mini witches hats that you poke in to your trim holes first followed by the trim clip :( . So I am still on the hunt for them.
Ross

Are these what you are looking for?

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113857219

Those are the small ones also

Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:53 pm

Thanks anyway OvalWindowBucket I spoke to WW and they dont know when they will be able to source them again--if ever--looks like I might have have to start scrounging around the bottoms of door pillars :roll: C found three with the vaccum cleaner in my 54)
Ross[/quote]

Thu Oct 01, 2009 7:28 am

the ones linked from CIP1 are not correct. gee, what a surprise.
i got a bunch of these with the '51 i just bought. about 9 of them are used and are of one style. i also got about 25 of a slightly larger size. i am glad i kept them, because i thought they were being reproduced, but apparently they are not.
here are some measurements from the two different styles i have:
One on left: o.d. of base 25mm; o.d. of base of "hat" part approx 13.5mm; o.d. of tip of hat approx 7.5mm; approx 16mm tall; opening of hole approx 11.3mm.

One on right: o.d. of base approx 26mm; o.d. of base of "hat" part approx 15.5mm; o.d. of tip of hat approx 9mm; approx 16mm tall; opening of hole approx 11.5mm.

so which style is used for which application?
the ones on the left are obviously used, they have remnants of sealant on them. the ones on the right are "new". i have not checked the list of parts i got with the car to see if they are genuine VW NOS or not. regardless, they appear to be rather old.

if someone wants to reproduce either or both styles, i will be happy to loan them for mold making purposes, in exchange for receiving some of the finished product.

OvalWindowBucket wrote: Are these what you are looking for?
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113857219

no, it's these. not in stock.
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=111857219