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Graham Dean Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:49 pm

Hi, can anyone post a pix of a 54 BD Deluxe starter button please. I don't know exactly what to look for without a picture. Also i have two holes in the side of the dash, which one does the starter go in and what is the other for?
thanks in advance.
Graham.

barnjunkie Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:32 pm



uzis pic



but zwitters look like this


but will fit

EverettB Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:47 pm

Just for more info - the "Zwitter" one above was also used on 1953 Barndoors.

barnjunkie Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:26 am

EverettB wrote: Just for more info - the "Zwitter" one above was also used on 1953 Barndoors.

or would this be from the same time spane as the zwitters
10/1952 and 03/1953 ??

djfordmanjack Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:46 am

Diameter of the starter button would be of interest too (as I'm building a new pod housing and don't know the original dia. ) could anybody get a measurement of it ? would be appreciated. Thanx

BeaterBarndoor Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:15 am

it measures about 19mm diameter.
and to answer Grahams other question,i believe the other hole is likely for a lighter.
this is an earlier dash,couldnt find a 54 dash but gives the idea.

EverettB Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:17 am

barnjunkie wrote: EverettB wrote: Just for more info - the "Zwitter" one above was also used on 1953 Barndoors.

or would this be from the same time spane as the zwitters
10/1952 and 03/1953 ??
I do not know.

I agree on 19mm wide.

My original is also approx. 40mm in length.
Complete length from button to wire mount but not including the screw for the wiring.

EverettB Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:23 am

My '55 only has 1 hole, here you go


But yes, it could be an accessory lighter as seen above.

RockStock Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:12 pm


What size hole does the lighter need?

djfordmanjack Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:37 pm

BeaterBarndoor wrote: it measures about 19mm diameter.


THX

Graham Dean Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:09 pm

Hi Rockstock.
Thats a surprize , that's a pix of my samba, in my garage i think.
I don't remember taking out the starter button that is in the pix. What i do now know is i have welded up the starter button hole :roll: . so now i will have to try and make it again without damaging the new paint, and find somthing to put in the hole that maybe i should have welded up :cry:

EverettB Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:12 pm

If you want any measurements, let me know and I can pull my starter button out to measure the location of the starter button hole.

Unless someone already has a Deluxe dash or measurements available.

RockStock Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:15 am

Graham Dean wrote: that's a pix of my samba, in my garage i think
Graham, the pic is from the seller's ad 3 yrs ago or so

Graham Dean Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:52 am

Thanks for the offer Everett, but i can see where the hole was from behind. the problem is making a new hole without damaging the new paint.

53kombi Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:37 am

barnjunkie wrote: EverettB wrote: Just for more info - the "Zwitter" one above was also used on 1953 Barndoors.

or would this be from the same time spane as the zwitters
10/1952 and 03/1953 ??



My June 17, 1953 kombi came with a zwitter starter button from the factory. Definitely after zwitter production ended. It is probably another one of those parts that was used until stock was depleted at the factory. Or it could have been used through the end of production in '53, I guess. Anyone else with post-zwitter production '53 busses that came with a zwitter starter button?

I guess it would be interesting to know how early they were used too. Anyone with a bus built in '52 with a zwitter starter button?

For what it's worth, my bus also came with the standard (black) zwitter heater knob.

There were a lot of one year only parts in '53.

EverettB Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:38 am

Graham Dean wrote: Thanks for the offer Everett, but i can see where the hole was from behind. the problem is making a new hole without damaging the new paint.
Tape the whole area off then drill?

Tape should prevent big chips from occurring and also any damage if the drill bit wanders.

Anchovy Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:53 am

Use tape as Ev suggests and use a chassis punch if you have one. This will make a cleaner hole. We all know how important that is.

http://www.mytoolstore.com.au/chassis-punch-19mm-pi-1630.html

Graham Dean Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:51 am

Chassis punch? interesting, never seen or heard of one of those.
I guess you drill a small hole for the bolt then post it through and tighten it up and it cuts the hole?

Anchovy Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:15 am

Graham Dean wrote: Chassis punch? interesting, never seen or heard of one of those.
I guess you drill a small hole for the bolt then post it through and tighten it up and it cuts the hole?

Right, you drill a pilot hole, insert the punch and tighten it up to cut the hole. Electricians use these to "knock out" holes in electrical boxes. Sometimes they are referred to as "knock out punches", just like Ev's left jab.

They are mostly used for thinner gauge sheet metal. Putting some light oil on the threads and the cutting face helps. For larger punches they use a hydraulic wrench to drive the bolt.

Here is an overview:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knockout_punch

Rusting Hulk Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:02 am

Graham, i had to do the same for my semaphore switch. I drilled a 12mm hole then used a small grinder to open the hole out to fit the switch. It worked without damaging the paint.

When do we get to see the bus?



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