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Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:47 am

And the brake lines / ebrake cables. Oh, and the clutch cable and ground strap too.

Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:02 pm

Thanks, Russ. sounds like a plan.

I'll report back with progress, and pictures if I can remember ;)

Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:54 pm

Thanks guys! my buddy and I got both the motor and tranny out in about 2 1/2 hours. Not bad for 2 dumb kids who've never done that job before!

I'll be back with pictures next post.

Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:49 am

As promised for you all, here I am, and without further delay, here are some quick pics of the removal of the engine and transaxle.

This is my friend ben

Here's ben disconnecting some wires

After that, and the fuel line, guess what?

it just jumped right out!

Oh here it is...

Ben's getting the shock bolts loose

I should probably do some of the work too, I guess

This is awesome!

Gettin' the big bolts out of the horns

Ready to slide it out

Its gone!

Oh, I guess it's on the floor right next to the car ;)

Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:55 am

So, there you have it.

I made the executive decision to wait until my Bentley manual comes this week before I tear into the tranny aimlessly.

A couple things I ran across were I could wiggle the throwout bearing and the input shaft of the tranny. Should there be any play in either of these?

I plan on seeing what's wrong with reverse, I'm hoping its a simple fix. I've read the reverse Idlers get teeth ground off, and reverse pops out of gear. I've also read that the idler gear can be flipped and used again until it fails. Is this the truth? I'm just looking to get it fixed so when I don't make it up a dune, I can get backed down without rolling the thing.

I don't really have the time to send it somewhere to be rebuilt, but I guess I gotta do what I gotta do.

Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:22 pm

Hey everyone, just a small update this time.

I got my parts in the mail, so I decided to go dink around with the bug tonight.

I managed to get the speedo cable installed, and luckily I tested the speedo before I just put the cable on, and my speedo was frozen. I just grabbed a later speedo out of my newly acquired parts pile (from a later car) and now I'm good to go. I just have 2 gas gauges now (one functional ;))

I screwed around with that for a while, then I managed to lose the stupid little E-clip that holds the cable to the hub cover. I just made my own for now out of a piece of a wire connector.

I decided to put off the throttle cable for now, since I didn't have a light on me, and it was dark down there. I'll pull the tranny apart tomorrow, I've got my manual in, so I can use that to go by when pulling it apart. I'll try to take some pics for yall.

Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:14 am

do let us know how the tranny dissasembly goes. I have always been too chicken shit to pull one apart and try to put it back together. I also have a blown out reverse gear and would like to fix it my self if i can. Take some pics too \:D/

Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:11 am

do you have a device to seperate the 2 halfs of the trans? if i had pictures i could show you but you have seperate the 2 pieces in the area where the spider gears go, also when you take it apart make sure you look at the selector fork, if its damaged it may not let you select reverse, if you have to replace it get a hardened steel one not another brass one, and your going to love putting it all back together getting the reverse gear in line with the shaft is a mother f*^$&r! :lol: make sure you get a full gasket kit and use some of that tacky gasket stuff to put along with the gaskets, and when your putting the tubes and everything back together your going to have to shim the outer flanges where the tubes go into the plastic daisy, also make sure that you use some bearing grease on the new input shaft seal and oil all the gears in the trans when you put back together, oh and one more thing i dont believe that you can flip areound the reverse gear as the teeth are different on one side than the other, it has to be able slide into gear without having any mishap, you will know once you take it apart. this is all my experience from puttin together 2 swing axles and puttin all new seals in, i think i got everything!!!! (make sure you pay attn to how the spider gear is in there otherwise you will have 4 reverse gears and 1 forward gear :oops:)

Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:44 am

I do not have a picture of the tool to push the 2 halves apart out here in the shop.
When I get back to the house, I can post one.

Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:55 am

when i did mine i did it over at my grandparents house but he had a hydraulic ram/ spreader kit with a little hand pump from harbor freight this is what it looks like, we put some pieces of wood on either side and it all came out like a glove. :D

Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:19 pm

I am in the house now.
Item #3 in the picture is to push the gear set out with.

Sat Mar 27, 2010 1:56 pm

thats definatly alot better way to take that thing apart. I wish i had all those tools there russ!!

Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:57 pm

Might have the plans for it.
Let me look in the house

Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:18 pm

Hey guys, nice to see some replies every once in a while ;)

Down to business. I got it all apart today. I was a little intimidated when things didn't really come apart very easily some times, but I figure stuff's been on there a while, and now that I have it off, I can clean it up and it will go back together much easier, like anything.

I found a bad reverse idler gear. I pulled the drain plugs to find pieces of the gear stuck to the magnets! It came apart pretty easily, and it wasn't too big of a deal apart from the usual corrosion that builds up. First thing I did was clean the crap off of it because I don't need any of that going inside the transmission.

So on my list of things to get are:

Gasket set,
Axle seals,
Input seal,
Reverse gear snap ring (I bent the heck out of it),
Hardware kit? some stuff was kinda screwed up,
Reverse Idler gear,
and maybe a hardened steel shift fork.

I managed to get a little dirt on the pages of my bentley manual, but that just means I'm using it!

I'll post the pics I took tomorrow. I started a little late into it, but I took a few pics of the major components, and my tool to press out the pinion :D

Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:38 pm

cool glad to hear you got it apart, how did all the gears look?

Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:55 am

If yours had the 4 bolts holding the pinion bearing, a trick to putting it back together.
Screw a couple old case studs into the bearing flange, as a guide.
When if it back in place, start the other 2 bolts, and then unscrew the studs.
If the reverse idler is bad, look carefully at the 1/2 slider. that is what the idler runs against. It may be damaged too.
As for replace the shift forks, if you do, then the shift rails have to be readjusted again, and you need a fixture for that. That big flat plate I showed in that picture, or an old transmission case with the side cut out.
That is what all those other pieces in that picture are for. Adjusting the shift forks.
I used to do this for a living back in the '60s & '70s.

Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:09 am

Russ:

Mine did have the 4 bolts holding the pinion in, and in the bentley it shows 2 studs screwed in to help keep the holes aligned when reinstalling the gears. If the 1-2 slider is bad, I have a guy local to me who will sell me an old case set up as a jig to adjust the forks, and he says he can get me the parts I need too. I'll be back on with pics later.

Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:09 am

Ok, here are the pics of the teardown.

My little jack stand setup

Adding the diff to the parts pile

The parts pile itself

Ok, don't laugh. our puller wasn't long enough to pull the axle bearings off, so I "made" this ghetto puller out of a crank pulley puller, some long bolts and some nuts and 2 zip ties.

The bucket offered more support, with all the weight now being in the front where the gears are

My buddy Floyd pulling the nuts off to remove the nosecone

Pinion bolts out

After this:

(Yes, that IS the scissors jack out of Floyd's Chevy truck)

The gears are out and my reverse idler and fork sitting there

Inside the case; I still gotta pull that shaft out so I can clean it all up

Here's what we went through all this trouble for:

You can see if you look hard that the teeth on the gear are ground off one side.

That's all the pictures I got, sorry for not starting to take pics right at the beginning, I was just so ambitious to get to work.

A couple questions.
Where can I get miscellaneous things like the lock washer for the main shaft, and the pinion retaining plates, and circlips/snaprings from?
Is there such thing as a hardware/stud kit to do the whole trans? Or should I just go to the hardware store and bring some studs along to match up?

Thanks for watching guys!

Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:26 pm

All of those used to come in the gasket set.
Input shaft snap ring, pinion bolt lock plates, and the main shaft lock plate.

I suppose the manufacturers are cheaping out no days.

Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:00 pm

yeah, now it just says the gasket kits include all gaskets needed to do the whole trans, some even include the input seal, but none I've found have the circlips and lock plates and all that jazz. I gotta figure out where to get some of that stuff now I guess.