TheSamba.com :: View topic - Type-3 breather disassembly?

Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:21 pm

Hmm ... I used a modified ring-expander for the big crankshaft snap-ring.

Searching...

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_009454870...921x00003j

So duckbills are like needle-nose pliers but with lots more leverage. Got it.

But I don't have one.

Alright ... time to refocus. This little effort was simply to make the breather look as nice as the rest of the engine. Trying to get the car road-worthy to drive to the BOR in Phoenix later this month.

I can't afford the amount of calendar time I'm spending on this. The options are:

A) Leave it alone.

B) Bead-blast it as it is, flush the insides very well (to get the glass bead out) and repaint the black parts while masking off the rest.

I choose B.

Thanks guys.

Max

Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:29 pm

If you have the breather off assembly off, you should be able to push the sleeve out from below.

The pliers I was talking about was this kind. I guess they are called C-ring pliers.

Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:00 pm

Thanks Russ.

At the suggestion of a friend, the breather is spending the night head-down in my can of carburetor cleaner. Maybe it will be more cooperative after a night in the can. :wink:

I'll try to push it out from underneath tomorrow.

Max

Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:06 pm

The carb cleaner did the trick!

Breather apart:

Bead blasted:

Painted and reassembled:

Special thanks to FASTBACKDON, who loaned me his breather tool!

Max

Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:34 pm

Max that breather is incredible. I know where to send mine to get restored Damn. I am just glad the tool worked. If the breather is any indication of what the rest of your engine will look like wow is all I can say.
Don

Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:46 pm

FASTBACKDON wrote: I know where to send mine to get restored
I'd be more than happy to do yours, Don!

I now know how to get it apart. :lol:

Max

Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:41 pm

hm, an internal 1" pipe wrench like this??

http://www.generaltools.com/products/professional-internal-pipe-wrench-(1)__139d.aspx

Doesn't look similar to what was pictured above...

Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:52 am

TommyBoyGomes wrote: hm, an internal 1" pipe wrench like this??

http://www.generaltools.com/products/professional-internal-pipe-wrench-(1)__139d.aspx

Doesn't look similar to what was pictured above...
Tommy I already have the correct tool to remove the breather just come over and get it.

Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:50 am

TommyBoyGomes wrote: hm, an internal 1" pipe wrench like this??

http://www.generaltools.com/products/professional-internal-pipe-wrench-(1)__139d.aspx

Doesn't look similar to what was pictured above...
This is what I have and have used.

Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:49 am

http://www.aircoolednut.com/cmgallery/thumbnails.php?album=35

Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:08 am

I've never seen this sleeve on the engines that I've pulled apart. I swear, I always learn something new in this forum that I didn't know before.

I do have quite a few engines that are completely original, that I've never pulled apart at least. Will be interesting to see if the sleeve is inside.

Mon May 10, 2010 11:58 pm

Hey Max,

I've dissassembled and painted my breather assembly as well (btw, thanks for stealing my silver-and-black painting scheme :) ) and had a question. What gasket did you use between the stand and the breather? I see on ispwest's website that there's a gasket that goes between the two, but in my elring set, I only see a metal washer (similar in style to the one on the oil relief valve) that could fit the diameter of the stand throat. Is this metal one the right gasket to use underneath the breather? If not, where'd you get the right one? Did you permatex it? Thanks!

Tue May 11, 2010 9:50 am

That gasket does not come in the gasket set.
You will have to make one.
Finish off that box of Wheaties, and get your scissors out.

Tue May 11, 2010 9:50 am

What is that brillo pad? I do not have one in my '72....should I?
I have a light tension spring between the plastic cap and the lower washer.....is that correct for the '72 breather box assy?

Tue May 11, 2010 3:04 pm

Ah, got it Russ. Good thing I just finished some frosted mini wheats!

Tue May 11, 2010 3:28 pm

RAIDER SS wrote: What is that brillo pad? I do not have one in my '72....should I?
I have a light tension spring between the plastic cap and the lower washer.....is that correct for the '72 breather box assy?

That scrubby is an oil seperator.
It is something for the oil to condense on.
When they went to the closed vent system, and not the road draft tube, VW did away with the scrubby. Figured they did not need to worry about it dripping on the ground, or your garage floor.

Tue May 11, 2010 4:17 pm

Russ, what have you used in the past as a substitute for the oile filter/nest/brillo pad looking thing? I'm hesitant to use thick steel wool and risk some of the steel falling into the engine. I'd sure like the oil to condense on something rather than the air filter I'm putting on the end of the breather. Anything you'd recommend? Thanks!

Tue May 11, 2010 4:20 pm

Do you know those body washing things your girl friend/wife uses?
I have used a piece of one of those before. Do not pack it too tight, or it will cause back pressure.

Tue May 11, 2010 4:22 pm

you mean a loofah? (sp?) :) Most of those are some type of polymer or nylon I thought... Wouldn't want that to melt. Or do you mean more of a sponge material?

Tue May 11, 2010 4:23 pm

It does not get that hot there. Probably not over 100-120* at the breather.