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remroc Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:48 pm

Just how rare are the VW 1500 tool kits? Gizmo Bob has one featured in the current Hot VW's. There is one for sale in the Samba classifieds (976570). Who else has one?

EverettB Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:25 pm

Rare. I think I have only seen 3, not including the broken one for sale on here.

And I'm not sure that 2 of those 3 aren't the same one.

ALLWAGONS Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:26 pm

I've had two. Both plastic cases liek the one on the ad. the only difference, one had a VW 1500 logo and the other a HAZET Tourist 2. Bob's is a generic, that covers both bug and type 3's. I have only seen in pics an early metal one offered for type 3's only.

ALLWAGONS Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:47 pm

Here's a pic of an VW 1500



Here's a pic of a Hazet Tourist 2


Here's another one offered for late VW's


and the rarest one of them all.

notchboy Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:58 pm

ALLWAGONS wrote: I've had two. Both plastic cases liek the one on the ad. the only difference, one had a VW 1500 logo and the other a HAZET Tourist 2. Bob's is a generic, that covers both bug and type 3's. I have only seen in pics an early metal one offered for type 3's only.

A metal one eh? Never heard of a T3 metal one.

Ive had all 3 types at one point. The 69 and later type as seen in the classifieds. Its all plastic with a raised VW and 1500 symbol. As well as the identicle except badging "Hazet 2" type. These are both rare and treasured prizes when found. They are kinda flimsy and get beat up. As seen in the add.





A couple years back I was offered a 62 tool box for a type 3. At the time I was like, what? How do you know its a 62? The owner was stationed in Germany and owned a 62 notch. He said he bought a T3 tool box for it. Sold the notch long ago but kept the box as he said it wasnt a cheap purchase in 62. Tis is what I got.




Its very different in that it has foam insert for the tools and thick plastic for the box. Not a thin liner with thin plastic. It is as far as I know the only compleet on and is the oldet know-unless another pops up-which has but it was only the box and I dont know where it went or who owns it.

Id say this is the rarest-followed by Bobs generic type-dont see many of those. And the last is the first shown. I sold the two on-Scott owns one-Lee has one and I know of 2 others. So thats what-6 plus the classy one for 7? There has to be more in peoples Hazet collections that dont care about there T3 origins.

ALLWAGONS Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:18 pm

[quote="notchboy"] ALLWAGONS wrote: I've had two. Both plastic cases liek the one on the ad. the only difference, one had a VW 1500 logo and the other a HAZET Tourist 2. Bob's is a generic, that covers both bug and type 3's. I have only seen in pics an early metal one offered for type 3's only.

A metal one eh? Never heard of a T3 metal one.

GEE! maybe I was wrong! HA HA! I thought it was metal, I have a pic of it on my manual, since it was shaped like a beetle one. Good to know!!!

notchboy Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:22 pm

[quote="ALLWAGONS"] notchboy wrote: ALLWAGONS wrote: I've had two. Both plastic cases liek the one on the ad. the only difference, one had a VW 1500 logo and the other a HAZET Tourist 2. Bob's is a generic, that covers both bug and type 3's. I have only seen in pics an early metal one offered for type 3's only.

A metal one eh? Never heard of a T3 metal one.

GEE! maybe I was wrong! HA HA! I thought it was metal, I have a pic of it on my manual, since it was shaped like a beetle one. Good to know!!!

The rectangle one right?




I thought it was generic?

notchboy Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:36 pm

Ok-1966 brochure, see Bobs kit show up-notice how the description has a bug filled and a T3-used for both. EDIT:(oops not correct about the bug-T3 filled thing)




Enter 1969-now replaced in the brochure with a square one, but the description say-also available in a round kit. But it dosnt have the bug- T3 symbols in the description? But in the begining of the brochure you see the last pic I show-it has the generic round case :wink:





1970





And the clincher!



t3kg Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:49 pm

notchboy wrote: The 69 and later type as seen in the classifieds. Its all plastic with a raised VW and 1500 symbol.

'69 and later? :? What's your source for that information?

And yes, I do have one -- mine is the one the seller links to from his ad.

notchboy Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:55 pm

t3kg wrote: notchboy wrote: The 69 and later type as seen in the classifieds. Its all plastic with a raised VW and 1500 symbol.

'69 and later? :? What's your source for that information?

And yes, I do have one -- mine is the one the seller links to from his ad.

I could of swore Id seen it in one of the top ads. But I think it was that generic one. Its seems to be circa the square one as it has the same kind of tool catch construction. The square box plastic trays actualy look beefier.

t3kg Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:03 pm

But why would they be labeled 1500? I think the universal kit was the only round one offered for Type 3s after 1966. I'm pretty sure the later style plastic ones are mid-60s. They fit into the front side of a wide 5 Type 3 wheel, but not on the front of a 4-lug.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4RHGHnd4sIw/RuMhuqULXXI/AAAAAAAAAyM/aRTo8Yo0gFc/s1600-h/intrunk.jpg

notchboy Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:05 pm

So it gets weirder? I just read through your blog on it all Scott. Id never seen this on! As it reads-all models-and looks a bit different in the lid than my early one.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4RHGHnd4sIw/RuMhuaULXWI/AAAAAAAAAyE/xp1B86M4wNE/s1600-h/accessorypage.jpg

notchboy Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:07 pm

t3kg wrote: But why would they be labeled 1500? I think the universal kit was the only round one offered for Type 3s after 1966. I'm pretty sure the later style plastic ones are mid-60s. They fit into the front side of a wide 5 Type 3 wheel, but not on the front of a 4-lug.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4RHGHnd4sIw/RuMhuqULXXI/AAAAAAAAAyM/aRTo8Yo0gFc/s1600-h/intrunk.jpg

And stated as universal?

Russ Wolfe Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:08 pm

Something I noticed in those 2 tool kits. The large open end wrenches, are 27mm. I do not think that there is anything on a T-3 that is 27mm. The front wheel bearing nuts on the early ones are 24mm, and the flats on the spacer behind the generator pulley nut.
27mm is the spindle nuts on an early T-1.

notchboy Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:12 pm

Yeah its a 27mm alright. As well as in my old one :-k

t3kg Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:13 pm

It says "all Type 3 models up to July 1965".

I think they just made changes during production. The early foam inside your kit looks pretty fragile, so that's probably where the molded plastic came in. There were several reasons to ditch the plastic cases in 1966 -- too easy to break, wouldn't fit the T3 4-lug wheel, universal case would reduce production costs, etc.

BTW, your '62 tool kit is the shit. 8) Only one I've ever seen anywhere.

t3kg Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:14 pm

27mm fits the early generator pulley. The VW factory workshop manual recommends it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4RHGHnd4sIw/RgdkP1gzy6I/AAAAAAAAAYo/auEJaSb1EEA/s1600-h/vw113.jpg

notchboy Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:20 am

t3kg wrote: 27mm fits the early generator pulley. The VW factory workshop manual recommends it.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4RHGHnd4sIw/RgdkP1gzy6I/AAAAAAAAAYo/auEJaSb1EEA/s1600-h/vw113.jpg


Ahhh I feel better now. Good work Scott-defending the kits honor :wink:

blackdog1999 Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:44 pm

Just recently found this tool kit & though I would post pics & update this thread as these early kits are not seen very often.

The kit is in very nice condition & looks to be missing the small pliers. They should be easy to find. There also is a small slot between the 27 mm wrench & the transmission wrench. Does anyone know if anything goes there? Maybe a feeler guage?



blackdog1999 Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:57 pm

Here is another update to this this thread. I found another unknown Tourist 2 tool kit & thought I would post pics next to my 1962 1500 tool kit.







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