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Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:21 pm

what year?[/u]

Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:37 pm

Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:59 am

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Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:08 am

19super73 wrote: Someone has sand in their anus.

Dude! WTF??

Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:13 am

beetlenut1 wrote: 19super73 wrote: Someone has sand in their anus.

Dude! WTF??

x5

Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:43 pm

Gary wrote:

Your comments do have a way of bringing everyone down. :?

Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:05 pm

All rudeness aside, it was 1975. I happen to own an early 75 FI beetle, but am in the process of converting back to carb!

Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:34 pm

75 was only in the US and Japan around the same time

it was around early 90s in mexico and pretty much rest of the world stuck with carbs

Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:14 pm

kburg12 wrote: All rudeness aside, it was 1975. I happen to own an early 75 FI beetle, but am in the process of converting back to carb!

converting "back" to carb? how can you when it was never carbureted? and a serious question, *why* would you? If you have a stock engine the FI is far superior to the carbureter

Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:17 pm

bugninva wrote: kburg12 wrote: All rudeness aside, it was 1975. I happen to own an early 75 FI beetle, but am in the process of converting back to carb!

converting "back" to carb? how can you when it was never carbureted? and a serious question, *why* would you? If you have a stock engine the FI is far superior to the carbureter

fuel injection on the bug has a lot of problems and can get really timely and costly to fix and keep up carb is a lot better for the engine

Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:47 pm

BStuck wrote:
fuel injection on the bug has a lot of problems and can get really timely and costly to fix and keep up carb is a lot better for the engine

sorry, you are wrong... the FI is much more efficient, and is very easy to keep maintained(in no way problematic)...unfortunately instead of learning how to maintain, or repair, the FI system folks switch it out for a carbureter that can run "fine" even when it's running like shit...

Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:53 pm

bugninva wrote: converting "back" to carb? how can you when it was never carbureted? and a serious question, *why* would you? If you have a stock engine the FI is far superior to the carbureter

I agree, imagine that! :wink: Most people want to go the other way and update their bug to modern, better running, FI. Including me.

BStuck wrote:
fuel injection on the bug has a lot of problems and can get really timely and costly to fix and keep up carb is a lot better for the engine

Fuel injection's problems are easier to troubleshoot due to the diagnostic software built-in to the ECU, if using a modern system. To say that, "fuel injection on the bug has a lot of problems", is kind of a generalized statement. I don't get how a carb is better for the engine? If anything, FI is because you can better maintain the proper air/fuel ratio through the entire timing curve and temperature and altitude ranges.

Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:38 pm

Time and COST are the main reasons I am going to a carb setup instead of keeping the stock FI. Too costly to replace parts and I already have a DP carb setup in my shed just waiting to be put together (for free!!!! LOL), and I think that the FI system looks horrible in the beetle. Just too much crap shoved in that engine compartment, whereas the carb setup just seems right when ya open that hood and just makes ya want to smile LOL. :D

Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:21 pm

kburg12 wrote: Time and COST are the main reasons I am going to a carb setup instead of keeping the stock FI. Too costly to replace parts and I already have a DP carb setup in my shed just waiting to be put together (for free!!!! LOL),

Believe me, we "old timers" know exactly why you are stepping backwards... :wink: But it's all good, it's your car and as long as you enjoy it and drive it, we are all happy....

beetlenut1 wrote: I agree, imagine that!
well, the chances of me being wrong *every* time are pretty slim, it was bound to happen...
:lol:
beetlenut1 wrote:
Most people want to go the other way and update their bug to modern, better running, FI. Including me.

count me in that "most people" catagory!... I anxiously awaited CB Performance's release of their quicktune EFI(several years back), and was one of the first in line to buy it.... once I get the engine actually into a car(EFI and turbo), I'm sure it will be everything I wanted... I'm done with carbureters, had a good run with them, but who wants an intentional vacuum leak when there are better alternatives? :lol:

Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:04 pm

Buggin_74 wrote: 75 was only in the US and Japan around the same time... Not true. FI Beetles were sold in other places too.

Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:15 pm

kburg12 wrote: Time and COST are the main reasons I am going to a carb setup instead of keeping the stock FI. Too costly to replace parts and I already have a DP carb setup in my shed just waiting to be put together (for free!!!! LOL), and I think that the FI system looks horrible in the beetle. Just too much crap shoved in that engine compartment, whereas the carb setup just seems right when ya open that hood and just makes ya want to smile LOL. :D

That just makes my head hurt. What are the laws in your state re: smog checking etc? What years are exempt. Many people in California have removed the FI only to have the car fail inspection, same thing with buying an FI to carb converted car and bringing it into that state.

This FI system is the simplest thing to work on. If you have a Bentley, you can do it. Is your current system working? If so, most likely you will never have to touch it. They are virtually bulletproof. If your reason to remove it is because you have a free carb system and you thing the current set up looks horrible and has "too much crap" shoved in there, that is not a reason.

Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:31 am

HMMM where to start LOL. When I bought the car the Wire harness was cut at the back door panel and removed all the way to and including the fuse box. The engine is so covered in rust and crud I am not sure what would work and what wouldn't. The ECU behind the back seat is in really bad shape, and even what little wiring there is from there seamed to be nibbled on by mice at some point LOL. Just too many things to mention, but like I said, I have an almost new 1600 DP carb motor just waiting to be put together and slid into this car. We don't have an inspection here in South Carolina, just pay your property taxes and get your tag!! I am going to use this car to drive during the winter for now, seeing as how my convertible has no heat, but I do plan on doing a full body off custom rebuild on this 75 (and yes there will be a brand new powerhouse put in as well eventually). I love the hood that came on it too, I was told it was an old EMPI hood with indentions running down each side of the front halves.