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Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:27 pm

is there anywhere i can find a 1960 nose cone for my '63 trans? the car had a 63 nose cone and it didnt quite fit properly and it tilted the engine up about an inch so my cooling tin wouldnt fit correctly. i think i broke the front trans mount and since im allready pulling the transaxle i might as well correct that too.
thanks.
-alex

Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:19 pm

a 60 trans is a split case trans....don't think you can swap it to a later type trans.

Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:30 pm

DAMN.. i was thinking about that. ive never looked at the cones to compare. so how could i make this trans bolt up square?

Sun Nov 21, 2010 1:32 pm

I think the first thing would be to figure out what is not right. Why isn't it in there straight. Otherwise, you can always fab up a bracket to move the front mount up or down.

Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:26 pm

first_one_a_65 wrote: DAMN.. i was thinking about that. ive never looked at the cones to compare. so how could i make this trans bolt up square?

59-67 bus nose cone and hockey stick -use with 1960 beetle front mount rubber.

Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:28 pm

first_one_a_65 wrote: is there anywhere i can find a 1960 nose cone for my '63 trans? the car had a 63 nose cone and it didnt quite fit properly and it tilted the engine up about an inch so my cooling tin wouldnt fit correctly. i think i broke the front trans mount and since im allready pulling the transaxle i might as well correct that too.
thanks.
-alex

1959-1967 bus nosecone and 59-67 bus hockey stick. use 1960 beetle front rubber mount.

Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:58 pm

yup bus cone stock 60 mount .....john

Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:55 pm

and thatll all bolt up with no modification? id really like to go this route then. i dont want to cut my mount off to weld up a newer one.

-alex

Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:08 pm

and what else would i need? gasket wise or sealer or any modifications?

Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:45 am

1- Bus Nose cone
2- Bus Hockey Stick
3- 1960 Front Trans. Mount
4- Nose Cone Gasket
5- Might as well Replace Rear Trans. Cradle Mounts
6- If you Find a New Bus Hockey Stick, I've heard they are Dimpled on Both sides. But if you Get a used one you'll have to dimple it on the other side, Just make sure you don't drill too big of a dimple. It will affect your Shifting, ask me how I know. Thank You PO :x
7- Gasket Sealer
Assemble and Drive :D
I am running the same set-up in my 60'
Just wanted to add that I believe there is a thread on putting the dimple in the hockey stick. You might want to do a search as I think it's not exactly 180 degrees from the original one. I'll see if I can find it.

Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:43 am

sweet thanks guys. ive been looking for a thread on this but havent really seen one about the dimpling. this seems like a lot better way to go than cutting off my original mount.

Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:43 am

sweet thanks guys. ive been looking for a thread on this but havent really seen one about the dimpling. this seems like a lot better way to go than cutting off my original mount.

Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:56 am

is this the thread?
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=423796&highlight=hockey+stick

Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:40 am

Yes That's the Thread. Good luck on your Quest.

Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:45 pm

will update once i start. any particular places i should buy through?ive been looking through the classifieds and have seen some parts

Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:58 pm

I had that same problem back in the day when I put a 67 trans in my 1960. When I got my car it had a 63? trans in it already but if I can remember correctly the motor was not in the engine bay the way it should have been. So When Iput my new motor and 67 trans I made an adapter plate out of 1/2" plate and the stock oval 67 mount. First I drilled the holes in the plate to fit the studs in the 60 pan. Then I put the 67 trans in with a case bolted on along with some tin. I moved the trans around until I got the motor and tin fitted the best I could. Once I got that, I marked where the 67 mount would bolt to the plate and then drilled the holes for the mount. Its been a long time since then ('98) but I think I changed the rear crossmember over to the 67 as well.

Why do the 1960s have so many one year issues??

Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:15 pm

Because they are cool 8) Anyway I remember reading somewhere that they slanted the engine and transmission 2 degrees from previous years, hence the 1960 one year only dip stick with the red painted handle. My info could be a little off maybe one of the Samba Masters could ring in on this.

Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:58 pm

first_one_a_65 wrote: and what else would i need? gasket wise or sealer or any modifications?

has anyone tried this Rancho type II nose cone kit?? its a little pricey, comes complete with predrilled hockey stick...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1032574

Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:30 pm

id say well worth it ,years ago my buddy had a 60 drag car ,we needed the "majic" nosecone, after callin around for a couple o weeks ,pre net days , we drove an hour to walk way up in the woods in the dark and pull a motor and trans out of a split bus that was in the ground with no wheels on it , got the part but what an adventure! 124.00 for a brand new one with the stick and a nice seal ? worth every penny ! was glad to see sombody finally makin them................................john

Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:23 pm

hmmmmm that rancho kit looks nice..lol im having trouble finding a stock 1960 rubber mount. any suggestions?