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sharkskinman Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:35 pm

other than the 003 Auto in the Type 3s and 4s (T4 engine in 914)

did any other have an Auto Tranny

moth my ACVWs are Autos
wondering about Any Porsche Upgrade thats an Auto

DSF Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:59 pm

"Sportmatic" in '67? You shift it, but the clutch is automatic...

sharkskinman Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:54 pm

Quote: Warpspeed (Automotive)
19 Jul 06 18:43
In 1972, Porsche introduced the "sportmatic" transmission, which was a conventional four speed manual transaxle with vacuum actuator for the clutch. It also had a torque converter on the engine side of the clutch. Placing your hand on top of the gear lever sucked in the clutch.
Fabrico (Automotive)
19 Jul 06 19:40

That clutch sucked alright.smile I had the same thing in a 1968 Volkswagon. VW called theirs the "Automatic Stick Shift" (A.S.S. believe it or not smile)

so are we just talking about the Auto stick ???

928 had an auto (1st maybe)
but thats a whole different set up ...

hm?....

DSF Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:54 am

from the interwebs:



"The Sportmatic Semi Automatic

In 1967, Porsche astonished the world by offering a semi-auto "Sportmatic" transmission, in which there was a torque converter and a clutch, but clutch control was by a micro-switch in the gear lever, which still had to be used to change ratios.

In 1968 the new "B" series cars had their wheelbase extended by two inches..."



Basically, you just touch the gear shift, and it activates the clutch. If you're the type to rest your hand on the lever knob, you won't move, heh.

Didn't the Type3 VW have a fully auto tranny?

Vanagon tranny would probably work... ?





I think a 928 might be overkill.

DSF Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:54 am

Subaru?

sharkskinman Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:32 pm

yes
both my 71s (T3 fasty/411) are F.I. and Automatics

jt912 Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:58 pm

Try "Sportomatic". Introduced in 1968. Using a vacuum control unit, a microswitch on the base of the shift lever activated the clutch. You can shift as a manual or put it in D2 and tool around town without shifting. This was available up until the '80's I think I've seen, but not entirely a popular option.

sharkskinman Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:19 pm

vw bug had an Autostick that was cool i guess but a Shit to work on
and to get parts

i was hoping to find a Fully Automatic that might of had 4 gears
or ore agressive 3 speeds
but ....oh well

DSF Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:10 am

The "Sportmatic" arrived with the '67's. The VW "Autostick" is a different transmission all together.


Why not use a Type 3 unit? Vanagon? Subaru?

"Oh well" is unacceptable!!! :lol:


Good luck with it, whatever you use.

sharkskinman Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:21 am

whats the difference
they both are autos that you shift by touching the handle
they are both semi automatic


both my 71s (T3/T4) are automatic (full)
just wondering if porsche put an Auto in any of here cars taht differs from the VW autos


id like to see a write up on the "sportmatic" and the "Autostick"
for a good comparison

jt912 Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:24 am

For more correct info visit http://www.sportomatic.com/

DSF Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:54 pm

sharkskinman wrote: whats the difference
they both are autos that you shift by touching the handle
they are both semi automatic

both my 71s (T3/T4) are automatic (full)
just wondering if porsche put an Auto in any of here cars taht differs from the VW autos

id like to see a write up on the "sportmatic" and the "Autostick"
for a good comparison


You lost me. At first I thought you wanted to convert TO an automatic. Then, I understood you already have an automatic. Uhmmm... ok. No comments on the bus/vanagon/subaru boxes either.

SO-- you should totally use the 928 GTS tranny. It makes the most sense for your VW.


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jt912:
I briefly checked out your link. I've seen "Europe in '67, America in '68" online as well. I saw more than 1 '67 911 sportomatic for sale when I was trolling for my 67 912, and a neighbor swears he bought a '67 911S sportomatic brand new though... he's got a 356 now, and has been into Porsche's his whole life.

?

Either way though-- I'm not too interested in them.

sharkskinman Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:03 pm

ok
before vws i drove Jeeps
and before that
late 40s early 50s cars (Fluid Driven Transmission)

it had a clutch but that was really just to put it into first

it had an H on the colomn
P-up
R-down
1/2-Up Forward
2/3- Down Forward

so you can take off in 1 or 2 in either posission
without the use of the clutch
you could also let it automatically shift
OR use the RPMs or clutch to shift between the 1/2 and the 2/3

I LOVED THOSE CARS
i had a 49' chrys, 51'plymth, and 52' dodge

both my cars (T3/4) have a fully auto and they both work fine

Looking into Upgrading my 411s Transmission
but Not with a Standard 4/5 speed

now that you linked the Sportomatic
Its Perfect
but seemingly not that easy to get altho there were 8000 produced over the years

i would LOVE to get my hands on a set from a mid 70's porsche (engine/tranny)

altho the 411 is VW i believe its set up for a Good Porsche Upgrade
as the 914 is to the 6 cylinder



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