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Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:06 am

Sooo, were there any cars that had bigger front torsions than the others?

The square has bigger rears, but what about the front?

Do different years make any difference?

Was there ever a 'country' or 'severe duty' option?

Any other vehicles that use a similar bar, but thicker?

Maybe they could have a sleeve welded on to stiffen?

ANything but a T1 beam! LOL...

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:37 am

Yes. There is a 10mm and a 13mm front tortion bar (left two in picture). I believe the 13mm came on late model squares.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:48 am

Can they be retrofitted? In other words, are the ends identical?

Also, do you have measurements for both the roll bar and the torsion bars?

Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:58 am

The two on the left of the picture are the upper sway bars of a type 3. both of them fit in the same beam the 13mm is from a late model and will fit in a early front beam. They have the same ends just a larger shaft in a late model.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:08 pm

sweet, my front beam came out of a late square!

Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:20 pm

So the 13mm can be swapped into an earlier beam and will work with any spindles? How much difference is there in ride between 10 and 13mm?

Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:16 pm

Should be almost no difference in ride, since it's just the sway bar. On hard cornering, it will be a little rougher since it is resisting body roll harder. A great trade-off.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:33 pm

supaninja wrote: sweet, my front beam came out of a late square!

I have a White Line prototype 24? mm swaybar kit 8)

Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:37 pm

KTPhil wrote: Should be almost no difference in ride, since it's just the sway bar. On hard cornering, it will be a little rougher since it is resisting body roll harder. A great trade-off.

No it's not a trade off. It improves cornering stability and reduces body roll. This was intended for payloads in squares.

Rougher ride??? :?: with that small difference in bar diameter, I think not.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:45 pm

vlad01 wrote: supaninja wrote: sweet, my front beam came out of a late square!

I have a White Line prototype 24? mm swaybar kit 8)

Holy crap for the front dude, those are monsterous? I got a set of 24.5mm 944 S2 rear bars that around that size.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:04 pm

So by "upgrading" to larger torsion bars, I can improve the way my notch handles on my favorite twisty roads?

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:10 pm

:twisted:

They are adjustable from 22-24-26? I think? or it might be 20-22-24mm?

The 22-24-26mm might be the rear now that I think about it.

Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:15 pm

jimmynotch wrote: So by "upgrading" to larger torsion bars, I can improve the way my notch handles on my favorite twisty roads?

yes and no.

torrions bars are the springs in VWs, swaybars is what I think you are talking about?

I stiffer swaybar will generally improve handling if selected properly. The car WILL need better and wider tyres. Both front and rear swaybars need to be added and need to be adjustable so you can tune over and under steer.

Having too stiff will cause crap handling as well as having none or too light.

Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:41 am

on my old super i put a 3/4" rear bar while i was waiting for my new front strutsa and bigger front bar....oversteer city. after i installed the struts and a 7/8" front bar that old super became a go cart.