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karl h Fri May 20, 2011 3:17 am

EDIT: due to fuckbucket photohosting the pics of the first two pages have didsappeared, pics later are on the thesamba server and visible

with all the fun going on here i thought i would post a thread dealing with my ongoing resto. first pics are at the place where the bus was found. belonging to an old man it was used as a storage bin in his "garden"

karl h Fri May 20, 2011 3:24 am

the bus was lying flat on its rear part, engine and trans were pirated long ago, rear bumper was missing accordingly. in the rear sombody tried to lift the bus in the middle of the rear apron and only stopped when it and the decklid were damaged beyond repair. later lights were cut into the rear corner, it originally had the small taillights (early 61). while trying to lift the body with a forklift it was dicovered the hard way that there were a lot of sacks of concrete cement inside :shock:
so parts of the chassis were damaged too :oops:

karl h Fri May 20, 2011 3:32 am


this is how i first saw it - it was about to be scrapped. i felt sorry for it, i just cant stand the thought of a split being extinguished. since i only paid a very moderate amount of cash for it (just what the few usable parts on it were worth) i thought what the heck - i just cant live without a split (i just sold my 65 21-window the week before)
stay tuned

Campy Fri May 20, 2011 10:40 am

You are going to restore it? That is going to take a lot of grunt work.

TinCanFab Fri May 20, 2011 6:00 pm

I like your spirit, but i have to ask: Why did you sell the 21 window?

karl h Sun May 22, 2011 11:39 pm

yes, i am going to restore it.
i do have a faint clue of what is involved with a resto like that. i have turned this:

into this:

i also restored an ovalwindow ragtop
both cars were multiple show winners at local VW shows and have been featured in german magazines

karl h Sun May 22, 2011 11:47 pm

as for why i sold the deluxe (and i am in the process of selling the oval too): i discovered i am more a tinkerer and not a driver. i have owned the oval since 1988 and the deluxe since 1986, after the long years of restoring these i just did not drive them for various reasons, mostly time (i have the time to work on my cars at night) and the weather not permitting driving a full resto on the street half of the year where i live. rain on my perfectly restored underbody? no way :roll: . after building the oval i did eight engines for it between 1.6 and 2.7 liters - not much driving them either, just a race or two. besides - the money was good 8)
the panel will recive the attention normally only a barndoor would get (as of now, but just wait a few years)
oh yes, i do ALL the work myself in my garage, excluding paint or the casual transmission work.

pyrOman Mon May 23, 2011 6:26 am

karl h wrote: oh yes, i do ALL the work myself in my garage, excluding paint or the casual transmission work.

You must have a kickass garage! Keep up the good work and post some pix of the progress every so often! 8)

sslosbergas Mon May 23, 2011 6:51 am

keep up the good work, nothing is impossible or "too gone" its all possible! post alot of pictures as you go on

karl h Wed May 25, 2011 1:21 am

as for the kickass garage - i have accumulated quite a few tools in the last 30 years :wink:
"nothing is too far gone" is my motto also. you just have to cut a little more :D
if you see the bus on the pics and think it is bad, you are wrong - its real bad. its basically going to need close to everything repaired sheet metal wise
just an idea how this thing looks:


karl h Wed May 25, 2011 1:32 am

i started to disassemble what was left of removable parts
someone needed the handbrake assembly in the past, so he removed it with a cutoff wheel:

first on the agenda was repairing the framerails on the right side, these were damadged by the forklift and i had the fear of the whole car getting out of alignment. i will remove the floor of the loading compartment later, but now i still need it for structural strenght. i cut a slit from above to get to all the places i have to weld

Campy Wed May 25, 2011 11:38 am

That body makes me tired just looking at it. Good luck.

sslosbergas Wed May 25, 2011 11:42 am

you are 100 percent correct, nothing is too far gone! Check out my thread for inspiration! good luck on the samba keep up the good work

karl h Wed May 25, 2011 11:58 pm

it is tiring for sure, but doing one thing at a time and teaking breaks helps.
very nice work on your deluxe stephen, amazing speed, thats just not my thing, i like to go slow, so also funds for the project are better kept under control
but i like to play around :D

only non stock items on the panel will be the suspension and engine. i will use a 68 balljoint beam with adjusters and a T2 IRS setup in the rear. only permanent mod is the inner mount of the IRS, but everything else is reversible. i have done the same to my deluxe and was very impressed with the ride quality. brakes will be stock T2 drums all around, but with a later brake booster, all tried components that are all bolt on.

bill may Thu May 26, 2011 4:10 am

i love gas burners. keep plugging away on this.Panels are the hot rods in vw world. Wheeler Dealer panel is a good example.

pyrOman Thu May 26, 2011 6:37 am

karl h wrote: ... only non stock items on the panel will be the suspension and engine. i will use a 68 balljoint beam with adjusters and a T2 IRS setup in the rear. only permanent mod is the inner mount of the IRS, but everything else is reversible. i have done the same to my deluxe and was very impressed with the ride quality. barkes will be stock T2 drums all around, but with a later brake booster, all tried components that are all bolt on.

As it should be obvious, I like your thinking! 8)

brettsvw Thu May 26, 2011 10:37 am

I like your motto "Nothing is too far gone".

I would rather be a driver than a tinkler (that just does not sound right).

Her in Florida, USA we can drive all year round.

I will be watching this build.
It is amazing to me to watch some of the crusty rusty Barndoor builds.
As the years go by, we will most likely see more crusty rusty splits being saved than those being cut up.

warriorbass05 Fri May 27, 2011 5:32 pm

brettsvw wrote: I like your motto "Nothing is too far gone".

I would rather be a driver than a tinkler (that just does not sound right).

Her in Florida, USA we can drive all year round.

I will be watching this build.
It is amazing to me to watch some of the crusty rusty Barndoor builds.
As the years go by, we will most likely see more crusty rusty splits being saved than those being cut up.

and it's important that we see those too! keep them alive!!

Culito Fri May 27, 2011 6:50 pm

Very cool!
How's about you just get this one nice and solid, and have fun driving it. I couldn't drive a restored bus around, either. Too nerve-racking!

Good bus karma to you!

karl h Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:02 am

thanx guys for the encouraging words
one of the biggest problems is that the rear right torsion tube is rusted through. here i have allready cut it off

this shows what i cut out

i had a pice machined to replace the rusted out section

that being said, i now have a lead on a repair section from another bus i will likely wait for to get before i continue here



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