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Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:58 pm

what color should the bumper reinforce brackets parts be on a 1958 type 1 should they be black like the brackets or silver like the back of the bumper ? thanks

Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:01 pm

I would say black because it's neutral and it's not something it should bring attention to the eye

Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:44 pm

On a '66, brackets and overider supports are silver.

Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:53 pm

Originally black on a 58

Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:57 pm

Black on a 1958. This pic is an original 1960 and they were still using black.[img][/img]
The ad is for a 1961 bug and shows the silver brackets.

Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:07 pm

61 and up the brackets were silver. 60 and down they are black, just like what's pictured above.

Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:09 pm

Except CKD cars..........

Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:53 pm

sedan:
60 and earlier-black bumper brackets, black overrider brackets

convertible:
60 and earlier-body color bumper brackets, body color overrider brackets

sedan and convertible:
61 and up -silver bumper brackets, silver overrider supports

so your 58 sedan- black, 58 convertible-body color

Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:54 pm

stale air wrote: 61 and up the brackets were silver. 60 and down they are black, just like what's pictured above.
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You mean 61 and up on deluxe is L91 silver, and standard L328 steel gray.

D.

Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:12 pm

Helfen wrote: stale air wrote: 61 and up the brackets were silver. 60 and down they are black, just like what's pictured above.
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You mean 61 and up on deluxe is L91 silver, and standard L328 steel gray.

D. wasn't aware of that- didnt get standards in the USA- you in Canada? Please post pics of the differences!

Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:56 pm

guteandtite wrote: Helfen wrote: stale air wrote: 61 and up the brackets were silver. 60 and down they are black, just like what's pictured above.
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You mean 61 and up on deluxe is L91 silver, and standard L328 steel gray.

D. wasn't aware of that- didnt get standards in the USA- you in Canada? Please post pics of the differences!
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No, I'm in central Ca. near the coast. I do have a 65 111 that was built almost like a Canadian standard (called a 1200 Custom) sans a few different items. L-328 looks like this;
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/519384.jpg

Don

Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:05 pm

are the brackets different? or just the colors?

Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:04 am

what about the reinforcement plates in the bumper ? black also or silver to match the inside of bumper blade ?

Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:15 am

jeffros 58 wrote: what about the reinforcement plates in the bumper ? black also or silver to match the inside of bumper blade ?
Always the same color as the bumper brackets for the current model year

Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:25 am

ejonn wrote: are the brackets different? or just the colors?
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For 1965 on the single blade Euro bumper and the Deluxe Towel rack bumper for Europe and all Canadian standards (1200 Customs) The blade bracket is only two piece instead of the U.S. deluxe blade bracket which has the third reinforcement piece welded in-between. So yes the brackets are different and the color.

Don

Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:22 am

Helfen wrote: ejonn wrote: are the brackets different? or just the colors?
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For 1965 on the single blade Euro bumper and the Deluxe Towel rack bumper for Europe and all Canadian standards (1200 Customs) The blade bracket is only two piece instead of the U.S. deluxe blade bracket which has the third reinforcement piece welded in-between. So yes the brackets are different and the color.

Don
obviously you mean 3 layer rear bracket and not 2 layer front bracket.

Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:09 am

Yes Bill.

Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:02 pm

Aynthm wrote: On a '66, brackets and overider supports are silver.

I just bought a full set for my '66 Sedan and they are all Zinc plated.

Thu Sep 11, 2014 3:14 pm

Meaning aftermarket new- not factory, right Shortride?

Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:37 pm

jeffros 58 wrote: what color should the bumper reinforce brackets parts be on a 1958 type 1 should they be black like the brackets or silver like the back of the bumper ? thanks

IMHO they should be the same color as the bumper tubes and mounting brackets.

My very reliable ex-VW partsman told me all replacement bumpers came with black everything except silver backside of the bumper and further confirmed when we opened my boxed NOS one.