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Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:14 pm

djkeev wrote: Ducklips wrote: Good job on finding the info. It's good to know. I remember the last time I bought VW parts-in the early 80s, everything seemed to be from Brazil.

Thanks, it wasn't easy or quick!!
Really the only thing I don't fully understand is the date of the engine. It has "FABRICAÇÃO: DESDE OUT/75 "
I think this mean "from 1975" ??? My Portuguese is weak!

Dave

Dave, The Google translate says:PRODUCTION: FROM OUT/75 I will make yet another guess- that may mean starting in 1975?? Good work anyway. Isn't the internet awesome? :wink:

Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:42 pm

All I can say is 'Wow!' You guys are far more internet savvy than I. I'm stoked that you found that info. I like the fact that I may actually have a 1600 out of a van from Brazil. I'm going to click the links you've provided and read them. And yes, the internet is great, lol. Again, thanks for your help on this.

Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:50 pm

Lilyblue, check your PM.

Dave

Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:05 pm

Thanks for posting that list, I added it to the engine codes listing in the Technical area of this site.

Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:07 pm

To help clarify I reorganized the information in the Portuguese web site into an alphabetical order. There are a few engines in this chart that ar not in the chart Everett posted in the engine ID section. I also translated to English the best I could. I put question marks after items I could not translate, I believe for the most part they are abbreviations for a given month.
There are some model numbers that I'm not clear about as well. For instance the 10 and the 30.

Enjoy!!
Dave

Brazilian Engine Chart
Not from VW Brazil but from http://carrosehistorias.blogspot.com
Use accordingly
I'm not sure of the month words used so when in Doubt I used the Portuguese Word. If anyone can clarify please do so. If anyone has proper VW Brazil printed information to verifiy this information please let us know as well.

Letter: B
Type: 1 & 2 - 1200
Manufactured: To DEZ / 66 ??
Cylinder Capacity: 1192cc
Compression Ratio: 6.6

Letter: BA
Type: 1 - 1600
With Turbine Motor
Manufactured: Since Jun / 73
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2

Letter: BB
Type: 1 - 1600
Manufactured: Since Jan / 69
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2

Letter: BD
Type: 1 - 1600
With Turbine Motor
Manufactured: Since OUT / 74 ATE MAI / 75 ???
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2
Fuel: Gasoline FUSCA (Beetle)

Letter: BF
Type: 1 - 1300
Manufactured: Since Jan / 67
Cylinder Capacity: 1285cc
Compressiion Ratio: 6.6 (from motor BF 796.858)

Letter: BG
Type: 2 - 1600
Dual Carburetors
Manufactured: Since July / 78
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2
Fuel: Gasoline Kombi & Kombi EXP

Letter: BH
Type: 1 & 2 - 1500
Manufactured: Since Jan / 67 ATE OUT / 75 ??
Cylinder Capacity: 1493 cc
Compression Ratio: 6.6 (Type I from motor BH 490.345, Type 2 from motor BH 521.682)

Letter: BJ
Type: 11 - 1300
Manufactured: Since DEZ / 75 ??
Cylinder Capacity: 1285cc
Compression Ratio: 6.8
Fuel: Gasoline FUSCA (Beetle)

Letter: BL
Type: 1 - 1700
Manufactured: Since Jun / 72
Cylinder Capacity: 1678cc
Compression Ratio: 7.5

Letter: BK
Type: - 1300
Fuel: Alcohol FUSCA (Beetle) Brasilia

Letter: BM
Type: - 1300
Fuel: Alcohol GOL (similar to VW Fox)

Letter: BN
Type: 10 - 1600
Manufactured: Since ABR / 75 ????
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2
Fuel: Gasoline Brasilia (similar to 412)

Note: There are two (2) BV engines

Letter: BV
Type: 30 - 1600
Manufactured: Since Nov / 77
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2
Fuel: Gasoline Variant (updated Brasilia)

Letter: BV
Type: 1 - 1600
Manufactured: Since Nov / 69
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2

Letter: BX
Type: 2 -1600
Fuel: Alcohol Kombi Kombi EXP

Letter: BY
Type: - 1600
Fuel: Gasoline GOL (similar to VW Fox)

Letter: BZ
With Turbine Motor
Type: 2 - 1600
Manufactured: Since OUT / 75 ?????
Cylinder Capacity: 1584cc
Compression Ratio: 7.2
Fuel: Gasoline Kombi

Letter: UF
Type: 1 - 1600
Fuel: Gasoline Fusca (Beetle)

Letter: UG
Type: 2 - 1600
Fuel: Gasoline Kombi

Letter: UJ
Type: 1 - 1600
Fuel: Alcohol Fusca (Beetle)

Letter: UK
Type: 2 - 1600
Fuel: Alcohol Kombi

Engines above 1990 ??
Letter: UFA
Type: 1 - 1600
Fuel: Gasoline FUSCA (Beetle)

Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:20 pm

Dave, After a bit of searching, I think the "out" as in out/75 for the BZ engine is just the abbreviated word for October. In Portuguese October is Outubro.

Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:20 pm

Ducklips wrote: Dave, After a bit of searching, I think the "out" as in out/75 for the BZ engine is just the abbreviated word for October. In Portuguese October is Outubro.

Thanks, October in my translator App is Outubro but that could just be conjugating and other Male / Female type grammar rules. I'm thinking that DEZ is also December but don't wish to jump to any incorrect conclusions.
Aha! Just checked.... Dezembro!!
April comes up as Abril which would be my ABR abbreviation.
May = Maio which could be the MAI
Now what is the ATE I wonder??? I'm thinking "through"??
The translation of Through into Portuguese has several options, one of which is ate' o fim de relating to time.

My iTranslate App on my iPhone is actually an amazing thing!

Anyone verify who knows Portuguese??

Dave

Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:39 pm

BTW link to the full engine code list....

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/engine_letters.php

Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:04 pm

Just stirring this old thread up a bit by adding some confusion about Brazilian engines!

I have a bus engine with engine number BP 143729. Came from a Brazilian 15 window taxi and pulls very strongly. The stamping looks very straight and even. The engine is well built and has no oil leaks. Could this be a late 1600cc factory engine?

Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:35 pm

Hello, this is my first post on this site. I've been a long time VW enthusiast and last year I bought my first Volkswagen bug(s). The one that had an engine has a BZ engine code. All this info has been very informative but I'm curious if parts are a problem?

Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:28 am

As usual I haven't had much luck finding information about the engine in my '66 with F 0802890. It's supposed to be a 1600 but who knows?

Any help will be appreciated.

Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:40 am

1966
VIN ..... ............... 1200 eng # ...... 1300 eng #
Jan-- 116 543 112-- D0 053 049-- F0 521 075
Feb-- 116 622 320-- D0 060 706-- F0 594 000
Mar-- 116 726 045-- D0 071 814-- F0 684 880
Apr-- 116 809 563-- D0 080 210-- F0 763 341
May--116 909 207-- D0 088 453-- F0 850 026
Jun-- 116 1017 006-- D0 095 000-- F0 940 716
Jul-- 116 1021 298-- D0 F0

from the technical section

Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:55 am

60ragtop wrote: 1966
VIN ..... ............... 1200 eng # ...... 1300 eng #
Jan-- 116 543 112-- D0 053 049-- F0 521 075
Feb-- 116 622 320-- D0 060 706-- F0 594 000
Mar-- 116 726 045-- D0 071 814-- F0 684 880
Apr-- 116 809 563-- D0 080 210-- F0 763 341
May--116 909 207-- D0 088 453-- F0 850 026
Jun-- 116 1017 006-- D0 095 000-- F0 940 716
Jul-- 116 1021 298-- D0 F0

from the technical section

Based on that information along with other data I have found (F 0802890) it looks as though I have a 1300 in my car. I wonder where the original owner came up with the 1600 engine information after it was rebuilt.

Can you put 1600 jugs on a 1300 block?

Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:00 pm

it was probably changed to a 1600 as 1300 jugs were hard to find and expensive

Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:03 pm

60ragtop wrote: it was probably changed to a 1600 as 1300 jugs were hard to find and expensive

So you're saying the jugs are interchangeable? I guess so huh?

Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:00 am

From a member

Quote: The BZ Brazilian Gas Van engine. I acquired a '73 Std. Beetle, with such an engine, about which I could find no other references. On removal, and disassembly, I found it to be a Brazilian single relief, small oil pump tube, basically a pre-70 single port short block, with a factory installed set of Brazilian dual port heads, intake, etc., as a later dual port engine. Thus: a factory '69 spec single port short block, with factory dual port upper end conversion, and yes, the dished VW Van piston/cylinders, in 85.5mm,1585cc size. The PO told me it was sold to him, as having a factory new long block 16,000 miles prior, and internally, it looked like it, with very low wear. Runs well, still stock.

Mike (TX)

Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:25 am

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