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Disc Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:35 am

!!! THE CLOCK IS NOT FOR SALE!!!

This clock is a gift to my boss from his friend with another bigger dash mounted ('55 - oval?) clock. My boss was told it is '47-'48 clock but not sure. Clock is hand wind up from behind, approx. 50 mm. in diameter, with all original parts and working, was mounted on a chromed plate for table use since many years. It's not VDO clock, may be ZF of or ZE? What is correct use of this clock?
I've found simmilar, but VDO clock in Ebay.

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More info about that clocks will be good :) Thanks!




















Wiggy Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:15 am

Yep. Awesome score.

Wiggy Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:16 am

Btw it's an accessory clock that is used with split window glove box doors.

56reddy Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:30 am





This is the clock that I have. The face looks identical, but the rear winder looks different. Maybe my clock is a later model.

IN2VWS Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:38 pm

The clock in the OP appears to have raised dots at each hour. Is this correct or an optical illusion?
The clock shown above appears to not have these dots, and the thickness of the numbers are finer on the OP's clock.

Suboval Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:57 pm

IN2VWS wrote: The clock in the OP appears to have raised dots at each hour. Is this correct or an optical illusion?
The clock shown above appears to not have these dots, and the thickness of the numbers are finer on the OP's clock.

Raised dots is correct.

johnshenry Sat Jun 02, 2012 7:53 pm

IN2VWS wrote: The clock in the OP appears to have raised dots at each hour. Is this correct or an optical illusion?
The clock shown above appears to not have these dots, and the thickness of the numbers are finer on the OP's clock.


Don't you mean that the numbers on the clock above are *thicker* than the OPs clock? Looks that way to me....

56reddy Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:02 pm

There are definate differences in the faces upon closer inspection. My clock has thicker font and non-raised dots. I was under the impression that my clock was 1951-52 clock.

IN2VWS Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:25 pm

johnshenry wrote: IN2VWS wrote: The clock in the OP appears to have raised dots at each hour. Is this correct or an optical illusion?
The clock shown above appears to not have these dots, and the thickness of the numbers are finer on the OP's clock.


Don't you mean that the numbers on the clock above are *thicker* than the OPs clock? Looks that way to me....

Yeah......thats what I said, didn't I?

IN2VWS Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:04 pm

The user =Petri Nut*1= also has one the same as the OP's clock.



The VDO catalogs list both the VW and Tempo versions as having luminous dots.......but it doesn't list them as being for a split Bug. The clock that would go in a split bugs glovebox lid would be 60mm.....wouldn't it?


IMG_0013 by IN2VWS.INFO, on Flickr


IMG_0014 by IN2VWS.INFO, on Flickr

Suboval Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:24 pm

IN2VWS wrote:

The VDO catalogs list both the VW and Tempo versions as having luminous dots...................

That would explain the dots and the extra paint(?) on the ends of the two clock hands.

IN2VWS Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:27 pm

There was a guy selling fake clocks 4 years ago:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=304494

oval53/split52 Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:27 am

IN2VWS wrote: The user =Petri Nut*1= also has one the same as the

The clock that would go in a split bugs glovebox lid would be 60mm.....wouldn't it?



It depends on the glovebox lid. Perohaus glovebox doors has got 60mm holes, and the more common version used in split-dash-Karmann-Kabs got holes that will fit 52 mm gauges.

IN2VWS Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:43 am

oval53/split52 wrote: IN2VWS wrote: The user =Petri Nut*1= also has one the same as the

The clock that would go in a split bugs glovebox lid would be 60mm.....wouldn't it?



It depends on the glovebox lid. Perohaus glovebox doors has got 60mm holes, and the more common version used in split-dash-Karmann-Kabs got holes that will fit 52 mm gauges.

Thanks.
Is the Perohaus version the same as the Happich version? The Happich version has the round horn grills mounted to it.

oval53/split52 Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:22 am

I assume you are refering to the aftermarket Happich version found in catalogues from the 50ties?

Perohaus version looks like this:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=425540

ACO like this:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=57017

And Karmann factory-delivered-look like this. There are different kinds of locks for these. (Happich) Some of these are probably period aftermarket.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=412545

IN2VWS wrote: oval53/split52 wrote: IN2VWS wrote: The user =Petri Nut*1= also has one the same as the

The clock that would go in a split bugs glovebox lid would be 60mm.....wouldn't it?



It depends on the glovebox lid. Perohaus glovebox doors has got 60mm holes, and the more common version used in split-dash-Karmann-Kabs got holes that will fit 52 mm gauges.

Thanks.
Is the Perohaus version the same as the Happich version? The Happich version has the round horn grills mounted to it.

IN2VWS Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:57 pm

oval53/split52 wrote: I assume you are refering to the aftermarket Happich version found in catalogues from the 50ties?

Yes. The Happich and the Karmann versions look the same to me.
I have a set that came with my split, and they accept a 60mm clock.
So, is the Karmann version nearly the same as the Happich version, with the exception that the horn grill is 52mm?

I found some clearer pics for reference.


IMG_0450 by IN2VWS.INFO, on Flickr

1950 catalog


1953 catalog


1953 Happich catalog



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