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Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:31 pm

The car was already a sleeper, it's a 1600 but says 1300 on the deck lid. Nobody suspected a thing 😁😆

These were Nipon P&Cs. when I got the car they came with one of the boxes of parts. NOS but they were stored outside so had some rust on them and I just ran em as is. They actually look pretty good still. The heads were acquired in a trade of VW videos originally from a junk yard motor.

Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:02 pm

EA812 wrote:

Today's progress.

So no progress to report . 😕

I ordered a set of if heads in January and got nothing but stories. The Terrivile Bug A Fair is in a few days and there is no way in hell this will be together for it or probably this season now . I lost motivation to even bother at this point but them heads are not coming. It was a scam . I ordered them from a company that has a bad reputation, thought I would give them a chance but got screwed instead. Currently going through PayPal to recoup my money.

Tue Jun 14, 2022 5:11 pm

Quote: The Terrivile Bug A Fair is in a few days and there is no way in hell this will be together for it or probably this season now
How about some motivation, EA?

Back in the summer 2004, my '70 Fastback engine was completely apart the week before The Type 3 Invasion at Hershey, PA. Starting that Monday evening, I thrashed the remaining days after work to get it back together and installed. The day before I drove off, went for a 20 mile "shakedown" drive on local roads and highway. Adjusted the valves very early the next morning before leaving, and it made the 3 hr trip there* (and back) with no problems. But by the time I started the reassembly, my heads were already clean and the cylinders lapped into the combustion chambers. I had already converted the engine to dual carbs.

You have a few days less to do the work, but less work overall because you only have the engine down to the short block.

*Air-Cooled Head's photo from that event; mine's the 3rd one back on the left row.

Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:05 pm

Rome wrote: Quote: The Terrivile Bug A Fair is in a few days and there is no way in hell this will be together for it or probably this season now
How about some motivation, EA?

Back in the summer 2004, my '70 Fastback engine was completely apart the week before The Type 3 Invasion at Hershey, PA. Starting that Monday evening, I thrashed the remaining days after work to get it back together and installed. The day before I drove off, went for a 20 mile "shakedown" drive on local roads and highway. Adjusted the valves very early the next morning before leaving, and it made the 3 hr trip there* (and back) with no problems. But by the time I started the reassembly, my heads were already clean and the cylinders lapped into the combustion chambers. I had already converted the engine to dual carbs.

You have a few days less to do the work, but less work overall because you only have the engine down to the short block.

*Air-Cooled Head's photo from that event; mine's the 3rd one back on the left row.

That's and amazing story, and I bet someone there this weekend will be doing that!

As for me I never ordered a single other part once I got wise to the scam on the cylinder heads let alone another set of heads. I tried to stay positive thinking they were coming one day....... no communication from the seller since April.

Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:59 am

I'm currently in the process of putting it back together. We miss this car! No big plans like duel carbs now but I do want to replace the intake. It is going to be a 1641 now versus 1600 it was before the tear down. I have less time fir it now currently working on a 1967 Jeep commando that will be the next "daily driver ".

Mon Dec 26, 2022 2:42 pm

Glad you are doing some work on the engine, even if it's 1/2 year after your last post. Last time I laid hands on an engine project was Sept. 2021... :oops:

In your engine case photo above, is that just a loosely fitting dust shield at the crank pulley area which will be removed when you fit the pulley?

This photo of your one head- looks like the intake valves are different sizes- such as a fuel injected engine's 33 mm vs carb engine 35.5 mm?

Sat Dec 31, 2022 12:23 pm

That's the washer for the crank pulley, it's just one there to keep hardware from disappearing.

The heads are original to the block and currentlyI'msoakingthe combustionchambers in seafoam. Not FI heads and no sensor bosses. I always thought FI heads had same size intake and exhaust valves.? Maybe

Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:39 am

No, the Beetle/Type 1 FI engine had 33 mm intake valves; the exh valves were either 30 or 32 mm. However, the exh valves had 9 mm diameter stems whereby the usual 32 mm carb-engine valves had 8 mm stems. https://vwparts.aircooled.net/Intake-Valve-33-x-8-x-112mm-113-109-601D-p/113-109-601d.htm

Tom Wilson's book "How to rebuild your VW air cooled engine" has a reference chart of cylinder heads. He lists the FI heads and notes that the left one had the temperature sensor boss. The right one does not. P/N for the right head without the boss is 043 101 375R.

Aircooled.net also lists that the 33 mm intake valve was also fitted to the 1966 1300 single-port engine, though that had the 8 mm valve stem. When you take your intake valves out of this head, if you measure the head diameters, likely the one on the left in your photo will be 33 mm and the right will be 35.5 mm. If I view them correctly.

Happy New Year, and looking forward to seeing you in person at a CVA event- hopefully with your engine back together and running well.