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rickpereira Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:19 pm

this video shows a guy making karmann ghia bodies out of fibreglass and selling the complete car for 30 000 euros??

that equals almost $38 000 AUD
or $40 000 USD

lot of money for fibreglass :?



John Moxon Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:46 pm

http://www.rudolph-roadster.de/html/classic_roadster_-_rudolph_per.html

Yellow_Submarine Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:51 pm

That's insane! Why would you buy a replica when you could buy an original for less?

Little Harry Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:38 pm

They claim with Hack's reproduction you can actually drive it to work everyday. Mine is the real deal and I drive it to work everyday too. And I didn't pay somebody $40,000 for it either.

67ghiaTIV Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:45 am

I must admit I like the hardtop option.

Jamie

Greezy Joe Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:45 am

Little Harry wrote: They claim with Hack's reproduction you can actually drive it to work everyday. Mine is the real deal and I drive it to work everyday too. And I didn't pay somebody $40,000 for it either.


I guess it would be the same as wanting a 356 or 550 Spider kit car (would like one of those), I have 2 real Ghias and have 30 grand in the Vert and 16+ grand in the coupe. Vert is almost stock original but the coupe ain't.

Altema Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:52 am

I would consider someone building these as a compliment. But, since it is using a VW chassis, I don't see how it would be a better driver than an original. I drive mine when the roads are clean and dry, even when it's well below freezing. The body would be rustproof, but you would still need to be concerned about the rest of the car.

In a perfect world where I had the money, I would make a replica from stainless steel and drive it year round, even in the snow.

Paul

NOVA Airhead Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:19 am

Greezy Joe wrote: Little Harry wrote: They claim with Hack's reproduction you can actually drive it to work everyday. Mine is the real deal and I drive it to work everyday too. And I didn't pay somebody $40,000 for it either.


I guess it would be the same as wanting a 356 or 550 Spider kit car (would like one of those), I have 2 real Ghias and have 30 grand in the Vert and 16+ grand in the coupe. Vert is almost stock original but the coupe ain't.

Yes but in the situation of those Porsche models the originals cost far more than the kit cars. It seems to be the opposit with the Ghia.

John Moxon Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:42 am

Personally I have no desire to own any replica; Karmann Ghia, 356, 550 Spider or any other classic based rip-off.

For me they offer little of the flavour of an original...you have to remember driving an original you're embracing the short-comings as well as the good. That's what makes an original a unique experience.

Nothing else does it, a good original gives a warm glow of pride you'll never get with a replica.

Little Harry Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:50 pm

John Moxon wrote: Personally I have no desire to own any replica; Karmann Ghia, 356, 550 Spider or any other classic based rip-off.

For me they offer little of the flavour of an original...you have to remember driving an original you're embracing the short-comings as well as the good. That's what makes an original a unique experience.

Nothing else does it, a good original gives a warm glow of pride you'll never get with a replica.

I agree completely.

calexican Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:05 pm

Little Harry wrote: John Moxon wrote: Personally I have no desire to own any replica; Karmann Ghia, 356, 550 Spider or any other classic based rip-off.

For me they offer little of the flavour of an original...you have to remember driving an original you're embracing the short-comings as well as the good. That's what makes an original a unique experience.

Nothing else does it, a good original gives a warm glow of pride you'll never get with a replica.

I agree completely.

Speaking of warm glow.....Merry Christmas John, and thanks for all you do here on the forum. Happy New Year!

tisius Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:57 pm

if you don't want rust ever and don't know or care about the original feel, then it's the car for you.
I think the shape of the Rudolph roadster is pretty spot on, well done for a kit car, and the quality seems high too. It's a new old car, nice kit car. I rate it in the same category as the Porsche fiberglass kit cars.

I wonder if the individual fiberglass parts like hoods and doors will also fit on the original full steel VW Karmann Ghia convertible. :?:

John Moxon Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:42 am

calexican wrote: Speaking of warm glow.....Merry Christmas John, and thanks for all you do here on the forum. Happy New Year!

Thank you John...a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you too...and of course all the other Forum members.

Hope you're recharging your battery...see you in February. :)

jhuebner Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:09 am

Just shows what the market is over here in Europe, I think I need to buy a cheap Ghia $300-$1000, ship it over here for $1500 do nothing to it and flip it.

Altema Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:20 pm

I just thought of something... If all they are doing is replacing the body with a fiberglass shell, I don't think it would be very well off in a collision. Ghia's are not noted for exceptional crash-worthiness, but I'd rather be surrounded by steel! I had the misfortune if having someone pull in front of me a few months ago, which left a small dent behind the right headlight. The body shop just bumped the ding out and repainted since there was no bondo, but I would not expect fiberglass to do as well.

Paul

Zack1978 Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:49 pm

It's interesting that they claim to put the new bodies on Bug pans. The Bug pan is narrower than a Karmann Ghia, right?


Zack

Little Harry Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:23 pm

Zack1978 wrote: It's interesting that they claim to put the new bodies on Bug pans. The Bug pan is narrower than a Karmann Ghia, right?


Zack

I think you are right Zack. If I am not mistaken the Bug pans are also a hair shorter. From what I recall the Thing and Ghia have the same size pans but the Bug is smaller. I could be wrong though, it has happened before :lol:

Altema Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:39 pm

If they are using bugs, then they are either modifying the pans or compensating with the body mounts being moved inboard.

bugninva Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:13 pm

the chasis is type one whether bug or ghia(or even thing). the pan inserts are different. as Altema said, if they are using bug "pans" they can be compensating in the body, since it is "custom".

swhitcomb Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:26 pm

I think they're pretty cool. Fwiw, bug pans are narrower, not shorter. If you out Ghia pans on a bug chassis it it exactly the same as a Ghia.



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