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Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:02 am

When I saw the title of the thread I was wondering about the bus shown above.

Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:12 am

im dying to know more info on the above bus, seen it on Oldbug the other day

Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:57 pm

What the hell is that thing?

Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:22 pm

My guess is if Christian is involved and letting photos out it is a lot more then meets the eye

Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:51 pm

Is this like the vw 38 sedan, so hacked it hides its true nature?

Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:25 am

Every time one of these East German coachbuilts built on Kubel chassis surfaces it causes a minor stir. Anyone remember this one?

My guess is that if the Grundmanns are doing something with that bus?
maybe it's on a Kubel chassis that turns out to have some VW38 parts on it, but a Barndoor prototype it is not.

Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:09 am

:popcorn:

Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:32 am

My information is that this east german coachbuild is based on a very early barndoor chassis.
if it makes sense to cut up a bus to build a wooden clone from it is another question for sure ;)

I could imagine that the car was involved in a bad accident and the owner was a "wood guy" instead of a "metal guy"? :roll:

Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:15 am

We all know about these Eastern Bloc hack-jobs and in some cases, nicely developed VW-wannabe buses. It would be great to know if there's something special about this blue one that the Grundmann's have purchased.... C'mon Christian and Traugott, spill the beans!! :lol:

Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:03 am

Wood body based on partial BD chassis

Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:05 am

Interesting, what's the plan for this weird thing then?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:44 am

East German Hack! :?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:03 am

Ste-9n2 wrote: Interesting, what's the plan for this weird thing then?

looks like a project that has ONLY potential :)

maybe enough of a prototype chassis to scratchbuild a "new" prototype?

Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:09 am

Considering how the VW 38 was turned into a Russian Tatra swamp monster, I have no doubt there is some kind of VW underneath this wooden monstrosity.

I could easily see a very early prototype being taken behind the Bloc by a factory worker. The years following WWII were more chaotic for the VW factory than the years during WWII.

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:20 pm

You had me excited it was another hidden chassis tucked under some other body like the porshe/Volkswagen racer prototype or the Lithuanian vw38
But that gearbox cradle is at least post October 50. That's usually the last piece to get replaced.

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:54 pm

Lowdown Dirty Rat wrote:

You had me excited it was another hidden chassis tucked under some other body like the porshe/Volkswagen racer prototype or the Lithuanian vw38
But that gearbox cradle is at least post October 50. That's usually the last piece to get replaced.

Don't forget the early prototypes did not have the familiar style production Type 2 chassis construction. The first few units were based on 1948 Beetle chassis.

Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:54 pm

It's bizarre that it would be built on a Barndoor chassis. Most of these Barndoor imitations were built on Kubelwagen chassis, which were very common and cheap in post-war eastern Europe. A Barndoor chassis would have been a rare bird. It would be kewl if this tuned out to be the chassis of the long lost Barndoor Binz or something like that.

Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:19 pm

RichOakley wrote:
Don't forget the early prototypes did not have the familiar style production Type 2 chassis construction. The first few units were based on 1948 Beetle chassis.

Exactly! That looks nothing like a beetle chassis but coincidently :wink: looks exactly like a post 50 barndoor chassis.

I wouldn't be surprised though to see a prototype with pretty much the early 50 barndoor chassis. I read the first prototype was based on the beetle chassis and collapsed but they then immiditely rebuilt that and built a second using the longitudinal box section and outriggers which worked fine. Prototype II covered 12,000km in testing. So no weak beetle chassis prototype without the usual ladder style existed for more then a week.

Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:04 pm

i was comparing the rear side vents to the type 29 but it seems theres 6 and this has 8 by the looks of it, i wonder where they got the grilles from though

Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:43 pm

Wartburg 311 taillights?