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Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:31 am

I've done more than one set of wheels with one of these. Vanagon wheels don't really center on the hub in any critical way, so this gets you a hole big enough to mount the wheels.

https://a.co/d/8bkCF2F

Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:33 am

xoo00oox wrote: That could complicate things a bit.

Yikes. Did you step the hub specifically in order to ensure hub centering for the rim, or what? These are steel rims, so there's very little depth to interfere with the hub.

Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:38 am

Zeitgeist 13 wrote: Yikes. Did you step the hub specifically in order to ensure hub centering for the rim, or what? These are steel rims, so there's very little depth to interfere with the hub.

Oh no...no no no...would NOT do that on steel rims. I should have added that.
I don't know if it would work. Alloy rims this works okay. OEM Vanagon rims do not have a design that makes the hub centering critical like newer cars do. Not a point worth arguing, it's just true if you look at the rim and hub. So for the most part this just gets you clearance over the hubs. I finish it with a sanding drum on alloy wheels.

Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:44 am

Bub wrote: Zeitgeist 13 wrote: Yikes. Did you step the hub specifically in order to ensure hub centering for the rim, or what? These are steel rims, so there's very little depth to interfere with the hub.

Oh no...no no no...would NOT do that on steel rims. I should have added that.
I don't know if it would work. Alloy rims this works okay. OEM Vanagon rims do not have a design that makes the hub centering critical like newer cars do. Not a point worth arguing, it's just true if you look at the rim and hub. So for the most part this just gets you clearance over the hubs. I finish it with a sanding drum on alloy wheels.

Yeah, that looks like a great way to break a wrist or two. I might try it on an Audi space saver rim I have as a test

Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:48 am

It’s a GREAT way to break a wrist!! Lol… you got that right on.
I’ve done a couple sets of Passat rims. I *almost* made a setup that I can chuck this in a ‘portable’ drill press I have and use this little rolling cart I have. Maybe on the next set.

Thu Jul 21, 2022 9:50 am

Zeitgeist 13 wrote: xoo00oox wrote: That could complicate things a bit.

Yikes. Did you step the hub specifically in order to ensure hub centering for the rim, or what? These are steel rims, so there's very little depth to interfere with the hub.

That .341 measurement is the width of the 8mm spacer. There was no reason to turn the hub right up to the shoulder.

Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:33 pm

Thanks Andrew, I found a local machinist to turn the hub to your specs for $100. It's tough to swallow a $100 mistake, but I own it and now the client should be able to run most any 16" rim they like.

Thanks for your excellent counsel.

Casey

Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:22 pm

its way faster to machine the hubs since they're easier to hold down and set up. half the time. also better for the future wheel use. good save.

Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:57 pm

xoo00oox wrote: That .341 measurement is the width of the 8mm spacer. There was no reason to turn the hub right up to the shoulder.

It seems that one of the benefits of machining the hubs as opposed to the rims is that more rims will then fit without modification. However, if you don't machine the area where the spacer will reside, doesn't that mean that you will not be able to run the small center bore wheels that require a thinner spacer or no spacer at all? Wouldn't it offer the most future options to machine all the way to the shoulder?

Sun Jul 24, 2022 5:07 pm

I had them leave about 8mm of shoulder so the rotor hat could be centered around the hub. So we aren't using the.341 measurement.

Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:04 am

?Waldo? wrote: xoo00oox wrote: That .341 measurement is the width of the 8mm spacer. There was no reason to turn the hub right up to the shoulder.

It seems that one of the benefits of machining the hubs as opposed to the rims is that more rims will then fit without modification. However, if you don't machine the area where the spacer will reside, doesn't that mean that you will not be able to run the small center bore wheels that require a thinner spacer or no spacer at all? Wouldn't it offer the most future options to machine all the way to the shoulder?

You're right, wouldn't hurt to turn right to the hub just leaving a good sized radius where it meets the face.

Tue Jul 26, 2022 6:06 am

Zeitgeist 13 wrote: Thanks Andrew, I found a local machinist to turn the hub to your specs for $100. It's tough to swallow a $100 mistake, but I own it and now the client should be able to run most any 16" rim they like.

Thanks for your excellent counsel.

Casey

Glad it worked out for you. Did they have any trouble turning the grease caps? They get very thin at that diameter.

Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:37 am

xoo00oox wrote: Zeitgeist 13 wrote: Thanks Andrew, I found a local machinist to turn the hub to your specs for $100. It's tough to swallow a $100 mistake, but I own it and now the client should be able to run most any 16" rim they like.

Thanks for your excellent counsel.

Casey

Glad it worked out for you. Did they have any trouble turning the grease caps? They get very thin at that diameter.

Yeah, they had to do the caps separately, and they are pretty thin.

Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:39 pm

Huge thanks to Andrew for holding my hand through this traumatic event of my own making. The client is super happy with his rebuilt suspension, brakes and new wheel combo.