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Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:25 pm

I'm rebuilding my 1986 2.1 WBX, during disassembly galvanic corrosion has claimed a few fasteners. The exhaust studs are much worse for wear as well.

I started pulling out the hardware to determine what sizes and hardness I needed and darn if I didn't end up cleaning and cataloging the whole mess of them!

Thought I'd post what I have here so that others seeking replacement hardware will not need to do the figuring I just completed.

All sizes are metric. The length was at times up for interpretation so what length I chose was very close, a few mm's either way most often will make no difference.

I've stumbled upon this web site which lists every piece of hardware needed. I usually just use Fastenal but may give this outfit a shot.......
https://www.belmetric.com/flange-bolts-jis-109-m8x125-flange-bolts-c-2_68.html

How the sizes are written.....
All bolts are standard Hex Head unless noted other wise, also all are machine threads unless noted otherwise.

Diameter x thread pitch x length ........ (Quantity)..... Brand...... Grade.........belmetric number

Rear Engine Carrier to Engine case
**** 10 x 1.5 x 85 ......... (2) .....KAMAX .... 8.8....BR10X85
**** 10 x 1.5 x 30 ......... (1) ..... 3F ........ 8.8.....BR10X30
**** Washers.... 10mm Wave Lock Washer ...... Quantity (3) ...WW10B

Rear Engine Carrier motor mounts
**** 8 x 1.25 Nuts ........ (4) ....... W ..... 8 ... NR8

Rear motor mounts to steel Cross Member
**** 10 x 1.5 x 50 ......(4) ..........KHS ....... 8.8 .... BR10X50P
**** 10mm x 1.5 Nuts ..... (4) ...... W .................. NR10
**** Washers .... None

Steel Cross Member to Body
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ........(4) .....B*T ........10.9 .... ALL THREADED.. BH8X30
**** 8mm Washers........ (4) ......... Extremely Thick .... WC8X20
**** 8 x 1.25 Lock Nuts ..... (4) ..... W ..CLASS 10 LOCK NUT .... NNH8
**** Double Drilled Steel Plate ......(2)

Oil Fill Tube to Case
**** 8 x 1.25 Nuts ....... (2) ....... W .... 8 ... NR8
**** 8mm Wave Washers (2)...................... WW8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 35 Stud .. (2) .................... S8X35F

Power Steering Pump to Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ......(1) .......KAMAX .... 8.8 ..... ALL THREADED .. BR8X30
**** 8mm Wave Washer .... (1) ...... WW8
**** 8mm Fender Washer ...(1) ....... WFE8X24
**** 10 x 1.5 x 70 ...........(1) ..... CARRIAGE BOLT .. NA
**** 10mm Nut ............(1) ........ H ... 8 .... NR10
**** 10mm Wave Washer .... (1) ................ WW10B

Power Steering Bracket to Engine
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 .......(2) ........ KAMAX ...... 8.8 ... BR8X30
**** 8 x 1.25 x 55 .......(1) ........ KAMAX ...... 8.8 ... BR8X55
**** 8mm Heavy Flat Washer ... (3) ....................... WC8X20

Power Steering Reservoir to Body
**** 8 x 1.25 x 15 .......(2) ....... ESKA ......8.8 ... BR8X16

Power Steering pipe to Flexible hose to Pump Mount
**** 2 Rubber mounts, 6 x 1.0 Studs on each end
**** 6 x 1.0 Nuts........(4) ....... M ....... 8 .......... NR6
**** 6 x 1.0 x 15 ...... (1) ............3F ...... 8.8 ... BR6X16

Coil / Relay Bracket
**** 6 x 1.0 x 10 ...... (2) .......... ?.........8.8 .... BR6X10
**** 6mm Fender Washer ..... (2) .................... WFE6X18
**** size 10 x 1/2" Sheet Metal Screw, Phillips Head ...... (1)

Ground Wires to Body by Coil
**** 6 x 1.0 x 10 ......(2) ........... ? ....... 8.8 ... BR6X10
**** 6mm Flat Washer .... (2) ........................ WF6
While these were not installed, I choose to do so to provide a more secure ground using these external star washers.
*******6mm External Star Washer ..... (4) .....WSE6

Coolant Pressure Tank to Body
**** 5.5 x 10 Sheet Metal Screw ..... (2).......
**** 6mm Flat Washer ....... (2) .................. WF6

Coolant Fill Tank
**** 6 x 1.0 x 12 ....... (2) ......... ? ........ 8.8 .... BR6X12
**** 6mm Flat Washer ....(2) ............................ WF6
I choose to use Stainless Steel here because these bolt heads are outside of the body by the back bumper, mine were badly rusted.....
****** 6 x 1.0 x 12 .....(2) ....... BR6X12SS
****** 6mm Flat Washer .. (2) .. WF6SS

Water Pump
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**** 8 x 1.25 x 44 Stud .... (3) ...................... S8X43 or S8X46

Coolant Pipe Right Side of Case to Water Pump
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut.............. (2) ....................... NR8
**** 8mm Flat Washer ....... (2) ...................... WF8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 35 Stud...... (2) ...................... S8X35F

Oil Tower top of Case
**** 6 x 1.0 Nut ...............(4) ...... M .....8 ......... NR6
**** 6mm Fender Washer .. (4) ........................... WFE6X18
**** 6 x 1.0 x 36 Stud.... (4) ............................. S6X35FULL

Mechanical Fuel Pump Block off Plate
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut .......(2) ........ M .......8 ......... NR8
**** 8mm Wave Washer .. (2) .......................... WW8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 48 Stud ... (2) .......................... S8X35F

Ground Screws to Head
**** 6 x 1.0 x 15 ....... (2) ........... ? ....... 8.8 ... BR6X16
**** 6mm Flat Washer .... (2) ........................... WF6

Air Conditioner Mounting to Steel Adjustment Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ...... (1) ........ CARRIAGE BOLT .. NA
**** 8 x 1.25 x 65 .......(1) ........ ALL THREADED ... BR8X60F
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ........(2) ........MF ....... 8 ....NR8
**** 8mm Thick Flat Washer (2) ....................WC8X20
**** 10 x 1.5 x 45 ........(1) .....PL ...... 8.8 .... ALLEN HEAD .. BSH10X45
**** 10 x 1.5 x 37 ........ (1) ....PL .......8.8 .... ALLEN HEAD .. BSH10X35
**** 10mm Flat Washer ....(2) ...................... WF10

Aluminum Air Conditioner Bracket to Engine
**** 10 x 1.5 x 50 ......(2) .... GRAEKA... 8.8 ... BR10X50P
**** 10 x 1.5 x 145 ....(1) .... ? ........ 8.8 ... ALLEN BOLT ... Grade 10.9 .. BSH10X140
**** 10 x 1.5 x 40 ......(1) ..... ? ....... 8.8 .. ALLEN BOLT ... Grade 10.9 .. BSH19X40
**** 10mm Thick Washer ... (4) ................... WC10X25

Air Conditioner Steel Adjustment Bracket to Aluminum Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 70 ......(1) ......? .......? ....... Carriage Bolt...... NA
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut .......(1) .....MF ...... 8 ........ NR8

Auto Transmission Mounting
**** 10 x 1.5 x 25 .......(2) ....... 3F ....... 8.8 ...... BR10x25
**** 10mm Thick Washer .... (3) ........................ WC10X20
**** 10 x 1.5 Nut .......(2) ................................. NR10
**** 10 x 1.5 x 100 .......(1) .......3F ....... 8.8 ..... BR10X100
**** 8 x 1.25 x 15 ........(3) .......ESKA ...... 8.8 ... BR8X16

Radiator Lower Mount Brackets
**** 8 x 1.25 x 17 ....... (4) ...... ESKA ..... 8.8 ... BR8X16
**** 8mm Thick Washer .... (4) ......................... WC8X20

Engine to Automatic Transmission
**** 10 x 1.5 x 40 ...... (1) ........3F ......... 8.8 .. BR10X40P
**** 10 x 1.5 Nut ........(3) ........M .... 8 ........... NR10
**** 10mm Wave Washer ... (4) ....................... WW10B

Spare Tire Carrier
**** 12 x 1.5 x 35 ...... (1) ........DERA...... 8.8 ... BFT12X1.5X35
**** 12mm heavy Fender Washer ... (1).............. WFE12X36

Exhaust Studs
**** 8 x 1.25 x 40 ..... (8 ) ....... Stud ......... S8X38E or S8X43
**** mine had some bolts..... If you wish....... 8 x 1.25 x 30 .... 8.8..BR8X30
**** 8 x 1.25 BRASS NUTS ..... (8 ) ................... NC8X13 or NC8X12
**** 10mm x 8mm Step Stud ...........................S8X19X35 or S8X10X38

Coolant Pipe to Water Pump
**** 8 x 1.25 x 25 .... (2) .... INDRA ..... 8.8 ..... ALLEN HEAD .. BSH8X25
**** 8mm Heavy Flat Washer ...... (2) ..... WC8X20

Water Pump Pulley
**** 8 x 1.25 x 15 ....... (3) ....... ESKA ...... 8.8 ... BR8X16

Water Pipe to Right Head
**** 8 x 1.25 x 22 ....(2) .........3F ...... 8.8 .... BR8X20
**** 8mm Wave Washer .... (2) ..................... WW8

Intake Manifold to Head
**** 8 x 1.25 x 75 .... (4) ......... KHS ...... 8.8 ... BR8X75
**** 8mm Heavy Flat Washer ....(4) .................. WC8X20

Injector Holder to Intake Manifold
**** 6 x 1.0 x 10 .....(2) ........3F ....... 8.8 ...... BR6X10
**** 6mm external Star Washer ... (2) ............ WSE6

Throttle Posistioner Plug to Intake Manifold
**** 6mm Nut ........(1) ......... M ....... 8 ......... NR6

Torque Convertor to Flex Plate
**** 8 x 1.25 x 10 .....(3) ........ FS .......12.9 ..... Flange Bolt......NA only grade 10.9 is available....... BF8X12 not recommended, source used Bolt or visit local transmission shop.

Alternator Bracket To Engine
**** recommend adding GoWesty's Modification or Similar Fix as you see fit.
**** 8 x 1.25 Nuts ......(3) ......................... NR8
**** 8mm Wave Washer... (3) ..................... WW8
**** 8 x 1.25 x 35 Stud ... (3) ..................... S8X35F

Alternator to Adjustment Bracket
**** 8 x 1.25 x 30 ...... (1) ...... FS ...... 8.8 ....Flange Bolt.... NA only grade 10.9 is available ...... BF8X30F
**** 8 x 1.25 x 75 .......(1) ......P/S ......8.8 ....Carriage Bolt... NA
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ....... (1) ......MF ... 8 ....... NR8

Exhaust Muffler Heat Shield
Engine Heat Shields
**** 8 x 1.25 x 18 ....(4) ..... ESKA ...... 8.8 ....... BR8X16
**** 8mm Flat Washer .... (2) ........................... WF8
**** 8mm Fender Washer .. (2) ......................... WFE8X20
**** 6 x 1.0 x 15 ............(4) ..... ESKA ... 8.8 ...
**** 6mm Fender Washer .. (4) ......................... WFE6X18
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ...............(1) ......................... NR8
**** 6.5 x 12 Loose Washer Hex Head Sheet Metal Screw ... (4) .. ST6.5X20
**** 6.5 x 15 Hex Head Sheet Metal Screw ....... (10) ...... NA use ST6.5X20

Exhaust Muffler Mounting
**** 8 x 1.25 x 38 ....... (4) ...... 3F ...... 8.8 ....... BR8X40P
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut .........(4) ....... M .......8 .......... NR8
**** 8mm x 18 Fender Washer .. (8 ).................. WFE8X20
**** 8 x 1.25 x 50 ........ (2) .......? ......8.8 ......... BR8X50
**** 8mm Flat Washer ...(4) ............................... WF8

Exhaust Joint Hardware

Electrical Connector Box Mounting Left Front Engine Compartment
**** 5 x .8 x 15 ........ (3) ....... Thread #2 Phillips Pan Head Screw .... MSP5X16

Idle Speed Control Relay Mounting

Coolant Distribution Connector mounting
**** 6 x 15 Self Tapping Hex Head Screw, double helix for Plastic ....... (2) ....... NA

Fuel Line Fitting Into Engine Compartment
**** 6 x 15 Self Tapping Sheet Metal Screw ..... (2) ...... NA

Intake Distribution Box Mounting to case Studs
**** 8 x 1.25 Nut ........... (1) .......... M ..... 8 ...... NR8
**** 8mm Flat Washer .... (1) ............................. WF8
**** 10 x 1.25 x 90 ........ (1) ............................. NA
**** 10 x 1.25 Nut .......... (1) ........ M ....... 8 ..... NR10X1.25
**** 10mm Flat Washer ... (1) ............................ WF10

Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:48 pm

Thanks! That one goes in my VW file for future reference.

Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:16 pm

Ahwahnee wrote: Thanks! That one goes in my VW file for future reference.

Thanks, there are more fasteners to add to the list though. I'll try to finish it up tomorrow.

Dave

Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:24 pm

Ahwahnee wrote: Thanks! That one goes in my VW file for future reference.

My thoughts exactly. Thanks Dave! Appreciate you taking time to document and share.

Kevin

Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:26 pm

awesome idea for a post. thank you.

Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:04 am

Or you can down load ETKA

Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:22 am

Alaric.H wrote: Or you can down load ETKA

Do elaborate..... Share a link, what are we downloading?

EDIT:
Google is your friend!
One small Problem..... $$'s......

Dave

Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:23 am

Member up & start searching: http://www.vagcat.com/epc/cat/vw/T2/1986/65/49/

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MODERATOR EDIT: 12/2020
Vagcat is a dead link!

This one works

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/usa/vanagon/va/
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However, your list is very nice to have all in one place.

Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:51 pm

dhaavers wrote: Member up & start searching: http://www.vagcat.com/epc/cat/vw/T2/1986/65/49/

However, your list is very nice to have all in one place.

A most excellent site! Bookmarked, joined and I will print out everything they have listed for my 86 Vanagon during the next week! (I do NOT trust cyberspace, things seem to simply VANISH!)

Dave

Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:57 am

djkeev wrote: I'm rebuilding my 1986 2.1 WBX, during disassembly...

What a fantastic post, I was looking for motor mount bolt sizes and got that and so much more, thanks djkeev!

Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:58 am

djkeev wrote: dhaavers wrote: Member up & start searching: http://www.vagcat.com/epc/cat/vw/T2/1986/65/49/

A most excellent site! Bookmarked, joined and I will print out everything they have listed for my 86 Vanagon during the next week! (I do NOT trust cyberspace, things seem to simply VANISH!)

Dave

As predicted, it appears the site has vanished. Does anyone know if the info is currently available elsewhere?

Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:46 am

Al, you missed it by one post above…update shown:

dhaavers wrote: Member up & start searching: http://www.vagcat.com/epc/cat/vw/T2/1986/65/49/

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MODERATOR EDIT: 12/2020

Vagcat is a dead link!

This one works:

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/usa/vanagon/va/
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- Dave

Mon Mar 10, 2025 9:07 am

UpVote this to Sticky, awesome info, might be hard for me to remember the title when I need to search back for it.

Thanks!

Mon Mar 10, 2025 10:19 am

bobbyblack wrote: UpVote this to Sticky, awesome info, might be hard for me to remember the title when I need to search back for it.

Thanks!

Added to the FAQ: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6236044#6236044 .

AlfromNH wrote: As predicted, it appears the site has vanished. Does anyone know if the info is currently available elsewhere?

In addition to the 7zap site already posted: https://webautocats.com/etka/volkswagen/t2/