TheSamba.com :: View topic - Carburetor Kit, Redline, DP Type 1, K1410

Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:26 pm

Hello,

(scroll down for the reason of the post. keep reading for the full story of why I am asking)

Working on a spreadsheet build for my..... our project. (I have the wants and my wife has my checkbook. lol)

Going through the aircooled.net notes in things to upgrade on the car/engine prior to the idea of opening the engine to larger pistons and 'stuff'. Honestly, if I had the 10k+, I would get a type 4 with a 93mm and be done with it. however, i can't really drop a $15k turnkey engine in a car not even worth $5k. ;)

Anyways, I have a 30/31h in the car and a 009 dizzy. Headache headache headache... Just can't get the thing tuned. Either the idle is too high or it is choking on it's self (smells like unburnt gas). Tried every kind of tuning options I can for those two from the web (3.5 turns for each on a warm engine and turn out the idle screw to 900 RPM and then the mixture screw until the RPM dips. The later never happen really. It just ends up dying with 1/2 turn left. the car also runs great for 1min and then stutters for no reasons {almost dying} and then runs fine again for a 1min. Cycles like that all the time)

So, I am thinking about the following: (A list is now, B list is later)
A
quick shift kit
Economy lightened flywheel (supporting tools and parts)
Pro grip clutch disc 200mm
SCAT Santana Pulleys (6 3/4" hard anodized)
Gas hose line (I have two fuel filters ON the engine...)
*** "Pertronix" SVDA Dizzy 12V
*** Deluxe Center Mount Progressive (DFAV/DFEV) Carb Kit, Redline, DP Type 1, K1410.

B
Front Disc Brake kit
Urethane control army bushing kit
Gas shock absorber
Stainless steel brake hose kit
Bulletproof throttle cable
Tri MII 'hotdog' muffler (not running heat in the car and will not be running the car in cold weather)
Bugpack forged 1.4:1 or CB Performance 1.4:1 forged rocker arm set.

:::::::Okay, the point of this post::::::

Anyone tried the combination of the Pertronix D186504 (aircooled.net) Dizzy with the redline K1410 carb on a stock'ish DP 1600cc engine??

Any issues, tuning issues? what is the largest jet and ventri (sp) did you use? what HP increase would I be looking at? worth the 'cheap' cost? The ad said they will jet it for me (the buyer) for FREE... Sounds fishy because all other setups i have seen online do not have that option.

I don't care about MPG on this car. If I get the funds later, I will make sure I can go through a set of tires a week at a 10 MPG rate. :)

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Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:27 pm

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Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:31 am

The carb setup is not free. If the carb is not jetted correctly after installation John will send you a different size for free. Aircooled.net offers this because if you give them the correct speks of your engine they will make sure the carb is right. Well worth the money.

Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:47 pm

canosgmk wrote: Economy lightened flywheel (supporting tools and parts)

If this is cast iron please pass on it.
They are a terrible option for any car.
Your stock one is forged from the factory.
Have it lightened.

Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:47 pm

Thanks guys.

yes, it isn't free. Only like $50.00. Practically free in comparison to the $800.00 dual carb kits I was looking at.

Anyways, anyone had or hear of the performance, turning and reliability of that carb and dizzy???

debating if the this will be good enough. I will have to cut the fiberglass body to make dual carbs fit, so i want to get the best bang for my buck.

Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:20 pm

Dual IDFs with shorty/Type III manifolds still wont fit?

Singles can be a real pain to tune and rarely get good mpg.

Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:17 am

Sadly, No.

The builder (seems like a home build) took every short cut known to man kind to include installing the body too far forward (bring the back of the MGTD closer to the engine) and the hole cut in the body for the engine cover is too small/narrow to fit the carbs on. The edge of the carbs will literally be with in the first 1/2" of the air filter and air-intake.

I don't mind cutting fiberglass, but want to have all my information about both setups.

It seems I am the first one that is taking a kit MG TD and want to make it fast with a air cool. Seems most people take a chevy frame and drop a V8 in it.

Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:03 pm

Anyone tried this set up?

Pros and cons?

"Pertronix" SVDA Dizzy 12V

Deluxe Center Mount Progressive (DFAV/DFEV) Carb Kit, Redline, DP Type 1, K1410.

Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:09 pm

There is an entire thread written by John Connolly on the progressive . He is one of the best at tuning carbs.

Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:58 pm

searching didn't bring it up.

Please link it.

Also, I was referring to that Redline carb with that dizzy.

Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:53 am

canosgmk wrote: searching didn't bring it up.

Please link it.

Also, I was referring to that Redline carb with that dizzy.

I don't know how to link it with my phone. Go to the top of the page on the engine and trans section. First "sticky" , scroll down til you find how to properly tune a progressive. It also tells you what dizzy it will work with.

Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:48 pm

I'm helping a friend with his 77 bus. It's a stock 2000cc motor so he started looking at different carb options and wound up with Kadrons from Kaddieshack and they just arrived today. We'll be putting them on this weekend but I have to say these carbs are really nice. Jeff dialed them in for the motor also before sending them out. We'll see how these puppies run but I gotta say they did a nice job so far as I can tell. For 540.00 bucks setup and ready to go it's hard to beat. Something you may want to consider while looking at options yourself.