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CaLiBus Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:15 am

Asking the pros here if Barndoors used this metal type reservoir? If so what years. Early split window bugs did.


EverettB Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:21 am

Yes. All years, unless I am not aware the super early Barndoors are different.

It extended into non-Barndoors too.

Progressive Refinements says:
11 Apr. 1957
Chassis # 248 322
Brake Fluid Reservoir
Now: rubber cap
Formerly: Screwed cover

Now: screwed flange, 19mm
Formerly: 27mm

CaLiBus Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:56 am

Awesome! Thanks Everette!

Do these early numbers mean anything? At one end what I think is a number 16? The outer diameter of master cylinder is smaller compared to an August 55 master cylinder.
Is there a thread somewhere pointing out the differences in years?


EverettB Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:07 pm

Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?

Tonny_Larsen Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:06 am

EverettB wrote: Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?

And very early barndoors are 22mm

djfordmanjack Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:08 am

this simply must be a 16mm master. probably out of some other German car brand, maybe DkW, Cologne Ford or similar. They must have used the same standard reservoir on different size cylinders, which they also did later and still do, although nowadays the standard classic car reservoir is made of plastic of course.

EverettB Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:03 am

Tonny_Larsen wrote: EverettB wrote: Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?

And very early barndoors are 22mm

Thank you Tonny.

I also assume the very early reservoirs might be steel instead of aluminum?

Beetle thread:
Brake fluid reservoir, Steel vs. Aluminum

52panelvan Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:08 pm

The remains on both my 52 and 51 were steel I think, I had assumed that the one in the pic above was steel (zinc plated) too as it looks rusty on a few spots on the side of it?

Brian_1952 Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:18 pm

Steel one are 1952 and down bug and bus

CaLiBus Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:25 pm

Brian_Mccue wrote: Steel one are 1952 and down bug and bus

That's the info I found in the spit window bug threads.. I'm thinking what Everette found was for the aluminum canisters.

CaLiBus Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:30 pm

52panelvan wrote: The remains on both my 52 and 51 were steel I think, I had assumed that the one in the pic above was steel (zinc plated) too as it looks rusty on a few spots on the side of it?

Yes steel canister. Here's the metal Ate cap :(

Tonny_Larsen Sat Jan 25, 2014 2:26 pm

EverettB wrote: Tonny_Larsen wrote: EverettB wrote: Usually that number is the diameter of the master cylinder.

For instance 19 or 22 meaning 19mm or 22mm.

Barndoors are 19mm, 55-67 are 22mm.

16 is for ?

And very early barndoors are 22mm

Thank you Tonny.

I also assume the very early reservoirs might be steel instead of aluminum?

Beetle thread:
Brake fluid reservoir, Steel vs. Aluminum

Yes, for sure steel. The same as on a early beetle

Clara Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:20 pm

CaLiBus wrote: Asking the pros here if Barndoors used this metal type reservoir? If so what years. Early split window bugs did.



That looks curved at the bottom.
This reservoir was on my Jan '56 westy when I got it:


The same type was on my June '53 bus when I got it, and it had '66 tags on at the time.
You can't see it very well:

CaLiBus Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:46 pm

Yes. Mine does appear to be more round at the bottom.

Here's the bottom stamping just like what you have. The reservoir is definitely Ate. The Ate cap fits perfect. It could be an earlier or older version.


RockStock Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:21 am

What are people using for reservoir gaskets 24 and 27?

Ie who supplies these?
Are they rubber, or the fibre type?






(Ref gasket 27…is that internal diameter 22mm, external diameter 27mm?)

RockStock Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:48 am

I actually have gasket 27…it’s a copper ring, approx 22/27 diameters.


So would like to know about gasket 24…and gasket 25 come to think of it

RockStock Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:53 am

RockStock wrote: What are people using for reservoir gaskets 24 and 27?

Ie who supplies these?
Are they rubber, or the fibre type?





#24 Rubber Seal






RockStock Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:35 pm

Virtanen sells copper seal #27.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2213844
WW one is probably the same
https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=N138272
BBT
https://www.bbt4vw.com/en/catalogue/brakes-shocks-...4iALf6lE44

Still unsure what material gasket #25 is.

RockStock wrote: #24 Rubber Seal


Please can someone post up the internal and external diameter of rubber seal #24?

Crashbox Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:43 pm

Inner diameter is 50 millimeters.



Outer diameter is 66.5 millimeters.



Thickness is 1.2 millimeters.


RockStock Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:13 am

Thank you Crashbox! Very kind.
Does anyone have a spare seal?



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