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Toolcan Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:05 pm

Damm youuu Covid 19!

jimf909 Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:07 pm

Woa! Where's the sticky for best late-nite posts?

levi wrote: Since you're asking for my thoughts, and I'm sitting here after 2am in a covid19 lockdown booze-induced stupor, I suppose I'll give 'em, interpret as you will.

My own particular requirements fall into the category of "it depends".

If I lived in a little 8 square block town in Kansas and I never left town I'd be perfectly content with rolling around on 84 load. Why not.

If I lived where I ever expected to be coming down a mountain road at more than 50 with a negative camber curve and I was loaded, I want at least 99 or 100xl.

For standard duty, 97xl is what I would think of as the baseline.
Below that the difference is noticeable to me in a negative way, and, to me anyway, the couple of extra dollars saved just isn't worth the crappy ride.

If the difference in price is 200$, and you divide that by 7 years you come up with less than 30 bucks a year. Then divide by 365 and it's about 8 pennys a day.
I'm ok with that. 8)

But, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

As for myself, I think I'll have another beer.

Toolcan wrote: Ultimately I was just attempting to soften the definite Blows
On thee Forum...
Nothing wrong with wanting to get by with preowned set of
Goodness on the cheap...

Fact is proper PSI (and PSI for load) with freshened suspension
is safety & performance on any Automobile.

Don't get me started on down hill on a pass with a cross camber
Corner... All loaded in Kansas unable to get beyond 8 blocks.

Oh Good Gawd!
We are talking about controlling loads here!
The humanity!
Damm You Covid 19!

Time for a diversion.
Going off on Modern Tire Technology Rant?!
Get all wax poetic on the lack of correct PSI
Information affecting said Load Range Ratings here.
Then attach a (drinking again yet?) spread sheet detailing the difference between a P rating vrs SL & Xl.
Then delve into the pogo effect vrs side wall shear vrs static.
Use the graph for comparison of definitive test load weighting for values per case stuffy comparison.
Can't forget about the relation ambient, outside, and tire surface temperature have.
Not mention the relation of aspect ratio/width/compound and
Casing ply characteristics at baseline speeds with
2 psi increments up to max Recommended psi Of course.
Sadly I've such a spread sheet...
(Now I'm drinking)
But the 90s just called and wanted that fine bit of Excell
Spread sheet back!

I would so apologize on Fox & Friends or CNN
If that last comment was to low brow and not inclusive
For the community

Ahh Again...
Agreed a fully AT built & loaded Full kit
Mega Westy needs a higher load range.
Fresh bushings all around Spring & Shock.
Heck splurge and get some rod ends and ball Jionts so
You can steer that hot mess too!

Again
A Civilian Westy load range does Depend
97xl is Recommended on up. (XL!)

Keep in mind a completely hard tire (Bubba got 12 ply)
with out modest loading (cough let alone your heavy Load)
exaspectates any existing suspension deficiency
You may have and actually excels wear thru out system.

Again...
Back to me..
Ohhh me. Wayyy mee...
My Van.
My van is a Tin Top Carrat witch is 3600lb Gross wet.
Powerflex all around upgraded Ball Joints and rod ends
T3 sway bar, stock 20-30mm springs.

I'm pretty sure that 95xl front 98 xl rear good to better tires
with 1000lb plus of gear on board
INFLATED PROPERLY FOR LOADING!!!
On cold forged Factory MB Alloys

Should be pretty Damm good on a down hill Pass cross camber
Corner. Or any corner for that matter.


Cheers!
Another here

It seems to me you'll be fine in your 3600 lb van...but I've been traumatized by so many beatings on the fora over the years that I'd never use anything less than 100+ load rating tires. Heck, D rated tires are all that I use (until I succumb to K02s which will be soon).

Go forward and be strong in your convictions.

Toolcan Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:55 pm

If I were High...
Vrs Heading towards and I quote
A Covid 19 Drunken stupor.....

If I were High I would love some Ko2!
Perhaps Geolanders or who Knows......

Load Range be Dammed!

Get me some Bar...
FYI a Jonathan? in Bend Oregon makes a lovely
Pre Runner looking Bull Bar.
Get a Little white line to run with..
( Talking Bushings here People...Gawhhd!)

But Alas I bought a little low Tin Top Carrat
Lets here it for fog lights mounted on fiberglass bumpers
As your only accessory...
Whoop Whoop!

My Lady likes the low...All Flexed and Koni & such.
A little Jump seat Table dinning in at the Beach.
Rolln with Berry White on

17x7.5 225/50/17 97 xl front 5MM Spacer
17x8.5 245/45/17 99 xl rear No Spacer

Hoping to go 215/95 Xl Front 235/97 Xl Rear
Soon to shrink tread width a touch.

Did I mention correct load Range PSI?
GET ON IT!

Did I mention how Bored as F I am
Thanks again Covid 19!

Have to say Its good to be and I'm pretty damn
Impressed with our community & Nation
Coming to a full stop.
Together.
For health of young and old.

Your Leaders could not have made you do it.
(I'm cleary a few in)

Its quite the load!
We, despite our differences, are doing better than
you think!

Be Safe..
Be Well!

Cheers...

nemobuscaptain Sun May 03, 2020 9:29 am

danfromsyr wrote: a couple 27x8.5 14 options some might not be aware of
about $100ea shipped.

27X8.50R14 LRD 8 Ply Achilles Desert Hawk X-MT

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-New-27X8-50R14-LRD-8-Pl...2479532127



THAT is a pretty tasty little 14" tire. Load Range D, load index of 101. Achilles is from Jakarta. I suppose that is better than China.

The Starfire is my second favorite right now, mostly because I have a softspot for Cooper tires. Maxxis still makes 27x8.50x14. General Grabber.

Looks like they are all made in the third world though. You take your chances.

Who is running these?

Toolcan Sun May 03, 2020 9:13 pm

When I was Up.....
Had longer springs/White industries Bushes/Subi
Tin Top.... R.I.P

I Ran 15 steels
Geolander AT G015 225/70/15 100load Range
This is SL tire so it was pretty consistent
Feeling between 40psi and 50psi.

Here in PNW wet this tire threw off the rain well.
Not crazy loud.
Handled...
Could take light Snow & Mud
Tire did not cut, slice or get gouged on sharp
Rock when on DNR & Logging roads less traveled
on the East side either.

Vantropy Thu May 14, 2020 3:30 pm

Looking for tires for my Westy's Van Cafe 16x7.5" "European look" wheels (same as GoWesty 16" "Alloy wheel set") ET23.

I'm replacing my aging Nokian WRG3 215/60R 16, but they are no longer made. Van Cafe carries the replacement WRG4, but it only comes in a 215/65, and as slow as this 2.1 van is up hills, I don't want to go any slower with the larger tire!

So: I'd like to keep the size same or smaller than what it is now, with a load rating of 99XL or above. 95% road miles with the occasional "what's down that dirt road?" or campground rambling. Non-directional/asymmetrical, as I'd like to be able to rotate to both sides and have a full-size spare to go into a modified clamshell (that could be used on either side of vehicle). I'm keeping the rim at 16" to fit over bigger brakes.

I've been looking high and low, and these are the only contenders that meet these requirements. I'm currently leaning toward the Vredestein, because of the all-weather, Mountain/Snowflake (3PMSF) rating, and the Nokian has been put on a lot of Vanagons with a generally favorable response until it gets off the road.

For those of you with 16" wheels who might have different criteria, I will also include my list of close seconds and tires that didn't make my cut (and reasons why in bold type).

The Contenders:


Vredestein Quatrac 5: 215/60R16 99H XL, 3PMSF , 26.2", 21 lbs. 794 rpm, UTQG:400AA, Asymmetrical, 6-8" wheel, $107/Tire Rack, Netherlands

Nokian eNTYRE: 215/60R 16 99H XL, 26.1", 25.6lb, 795rpm, UTQG: 700AA, Asymmetrical, 6-7.5" $90 small car performance (+shipping) Finland/Russia

Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S: 215/60R16 99V, XL, 26.2", 24.3 lbs, 808rpm (?), UTQG: 600AA, Asymmetrical, 6-7.5", $90 Tires Easy, USA

Continental ContiProContact: 225/55R16 99H XL, 25.74", 22lbs. 807rpm, UTQG: 500AA, Non-Directional, 6-8". $143 Amazon/$156 tire rack. USA


*****

Close Seconds:

Nokian WRC3 205/65R16C 107 D, 3PMSF, 26.5" , 26.6lb, 786rpm,5.5-7.5", Directional, $161 tires easy,

Michelin Crossclimate+ 215/60R16 99V XL, 3PMSF, 26.1, 21 lbs. 797rpm, Directional, UTQG:600, $162 Tirerack, Italy

Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 215/60R16 99V XL, 26.1" 24lb, 811 rpm, 600AA, directional 6-7.5" wheel. $94/tire rack, Thailand

Achilles ATR sport 225/55R 16 99W, XL, 25.75", UTQG:400 27lb, Directional, $73 Amazon, Indonesia

Pirelli Cinturato P7 All season plus 215/55r16 XL 97H UTQG:700, 25.5" 21lb, 815rpm, $123 tirerack (closeout)

Hankook Ventus V2 Concept2 - SIZE: 215/55R16 97V XL,25.3" 22lbs, 798 rpm, UTQG:500 $87 tirerack

Goodyear Assurance Tripletread All season, 215/55R 97H XL, UTQG:740, 25.3" 26lb, 827 rpm, directional $153 tirerack

Michelin Defender LTX M/S 215/55R16 97H XL, 25.2" 25lb UTQG:720 823rpm $184 tirerack

****

Nope:

Nokian CLine Van 215/60R16C 103 D, 26.1"Dia, 24lb, Asymmetrical, Rim Width Range 6-7" (per Nokian).$153 amazon
Nokian CLine Van 195/65R16C 104/102 D, 3pmsf, 26", 26lbs, $140 amazon Rim Width Range 5.5-6.5 (per Nokian).
Nankang Cross-Sport All-Season SP-9 215/60R16 99V (not XL?) , 23.8lb, $52 amazon UTQG:560 directional, Taiwan, Fakespot review of Amazon reviews: F (manipulation)
Nokian eNTYRE 225/55 R 16 102, 26.6" 24.8lb, 700AA $84 Amazon
Nokian eNTYRE 205/60R16 96H XL, 25.7" Dia, 20.9lbs. UTQG: 700, Asymmetrical $85 small car performance
Nokian WRC3 215 65/r16: 27"Dia
Nokian Rotiva: Too large, Increased offroad performance, greater noise and tire wear
Michelin Defender T+H - SIZE: 215/60R16 95H, TW:820 $126 tirerack
Michelin X Tour A/S 95H
Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 215/60R16 95 SL, TW:600 $148 tirerack
Continental WinterContact SI Winter Radial Tire - 215/60R16 XL 99H 23.7lb Snow Tire
Continental CONTIPROCONTACT, 215/60R16 94T
Continental Vanco 2 215/65R16C. Too Large
Continental 4x4 Contact 215/65 R16 too large
Vredestein Comtrac Not available
Achilles Multivan 215/60 R16C, 108, 26.14", rim width 6-7"
Bridgestone Dueler 422 Ecopia 215/60 r16 95V
Falken Espia EPZ II 205/55R16XL 94T BSW Tires
Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10 Too large
Hankook i*Pike RW11 Too large
Nitto CrossTek 2 Too large
Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 215/60r16 95H
Toyo Versado Noir: Load rating too low or too large at desired load.
Toyo Open Country: 215/65/16 & 98H Too large:
Nokian Hakka Van : 215/65 R 16 C 109/107 Winter tire (770 rev/mi) & not for 7.5"

***edit: I went with the Falken Ziex. I found it curious that there are ZE950ís in the 215/60 r16 size in 95 and 99 load ratings, so make sure youíre getting the 99XL. Heard secondhand that the Vredestein Quatrac has really thin sidewalls, which sounded like a risk on the occasional rocky road. First impressions are good, the ZE 950 look and feel much like the WRG3ís did. Made in the USA too!

levi Thu May 14, 2020 4:31 pm

Yep.
Welcome to the world of having a choice.
They ought to have just one flavor, that'd make choices easier.

Btw I have the 225 55 achilles atr on your list. Love em. Although I got mine for less than 60 each on tires-easy with free shipping.
About 1 and a half years now.

Jake de Villiers Thu May 14, 2020 7:08 pm

There's an error in the Falcon Ziex line: it can't be both 26.2" in diameter and 808 revs per mile.

I had the 225/55R16 ContiPro tires on my van for 5-6 years and loved them. I needed tires in a hurry before an August ban tour last year and got the Entyre 215/60R16 - and I absolutely hate them. They are too tall - and the tread is so squirmy I don't even want to drive my van any more. Its so f*cking vague...

I'm going to have to suck it up and get better tires and take the loss - unless you want mine: low mileage! :oops:

Vantropy Thu May 14, 2020 10:06 pm

Jake de Villiers wrote: There's an error in the Falcon Ziex line: it can't be both 26.2" in diameter and 808 revs per mile.


Ha, I know, all numbers with a grain of salt. 808 comes from Falken's own datasheet:
http://www.tireswarehouse.com/assets/docs/2019_PCR_LT_DATABOOK_DIG_01112019.pdf

I've also been mystified that the OEM Vanagon tire's revs per mile doesn't match what a tire calculator says a 185/R14 should be, but I've heard that this is on account of tire calculators having to make various assumptions that are innacurate...I'm guessing there is a fair bit of variability between tire manufacturers, depth of tread, etc. that might account for one companies' 215/60R16 being a slightly different size than another, but I agree with you, it seems a bit too far off. But you look at all those charts of numbers, they have to make a mistake somewhere! I'm mostly looking at the diameter anyway...

Interesting that you think of the eNTYRE as "squirmy" I would think that with such a high tread wear rating, it would be a stiffer tire, and if anything, more harsh than the others. But rubber is some kind of mystical alchemy, so who knows?

Jake de Villiers Fri May 15, 2020 7:16 am

Vantropy wrote:

I've also been mystified that the OEM Vanagon tire's revs per mile doesn't match what a tire calculator says a 185/R14 should be, but I've heard that this is on account of tire calculators having to make various assumptions that are innacurate...

Interesting that you think of the eNTYRE as "squirmy" I would think that with such a high tread wear rating, it would be a stiffer tire, and if anything, more harsh than the others. But rubber is some kind of mystical alchemy, so who knows?
The number on your speedometer face tells you what Volkswagen intended their OEM 185R14 tires to measure; 805.

At the same pressures as I ran with the Contis, the carcass is actually quite choppy over pavement irregularities while being very sluggish on turn-in.

YMMV

VicVan Fri May 15, 2020 9:05 pm

Hi all

Not sure this is the right place, but what is the recommended tire pressure for Yokohama 370 (14") on a Westy (2WD auto)?

crazyvwvanman Sat May 16, 2020 6:11 am

Your year 1990 driver door sticker should list 43 front and 53 rear for that size, assuming 185R14C is what you have.
Earlier years show a little less pressure, so 40 and 48 could be used for example.
If carrying a light load I'd consider the lower values.

Mark

VicVan wrote: Hi all

Not sure this is the right place, but what is the recommended tire pressure for Yokohama 370 (14") on a Westy (2WD auto)?

VicVan Sat May 16, 2020 7:33 am

Thanks Mark
It's a 1990. The Yokohama C370 are 195/70 (or 75, can't remember) R14.
Since the door sticker is for 205 or 185 wide tires, should I go kinda halfway?

crazyvwvanman Sat May 16, 2020 8:05 am

No, use the higher pressures still for your Load D tire.
The other tire (205/70R14 XL / RF) listed on your sticker is in a completely different tire category with different pressure needs.

Mark

VicVan Sat May 16, 2020 2:03 pm

Will do. They're currently at 45 throughout, I'm curious how that will affect handling.

Thanks Mark

jimf909 Sun May 17, 2020 8:01 am

1 - Yes, when doing the math for tire diameter and revs per mile I often get different numbers than the mfr. specs. I've read the mfr. specs for revs per mile are actuals from tests...but I read that on the internet.

2 - I love Nokian tires (I've used WRG3s x2 and WRC3s on my van) but I really dislike the eNTYRE on my passenger car. Wet weather traction is lousy. I've considered replacing them.

3 - Your list of tire choices is a great resource. The directional criterion does limit your choices (obviously). Good luck with the search.

M Vantropy wrote: Jake de Villiers wrote: There's an error in the Falcon Ziex line: it can't be both 26.2" in diameter and 808 revs per mile.


Ha, I know, all numbers with a grain of salt. 808 comes from Falken's own datasheet:
http://www.tireswarehouse.com/assets/docs/2019_PCR_LT_DATABOOK_DIG_01112019.pdf

I've also been mystified that the OEM Vanagon tire's revs per mile doesn't match what a tire calculator says a 185/R14 should be, but I've heard that this is on account of tire calculators having to make various assumptions that are innacurate...I'm guessing there is a fair bit of variability between tire manufacturers, depth of tread, etc. that might account for one companies' 215/60R16 being a slightly different size than another, but I agree with you, it seems a bit too far off. But you look at all those charts of numbers, they have to make a mistake somewhere! I'm mostly looking at the diameter anyway...

Interesting that you think of the eNTYRE as "squirmy" I would think that with such a high tread wear rating, it would be a stiffer tire, and if anything, more harsh than the others. But rubber is some kind of mystical alchemy, so who knows?

D_Wal Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:02 pm

Any reason you donít have the WRC3 215/60/16 listed as an option?
Slightly smaller diameter than the 205/65/16

It seems like a really good option though it is pricey.


Vantropy wrote: Looking for tires for my Westy's Van Cafe 16x7.5" "European look" wheels (same as GoWesty 16" "Alloy wheel set") ET23.

I'm replacing my aging Nokian WRG3 215/60R 16, but they are no longer made. Van Cafe carries the replacement WRG4, but it only comes in a 215/65, and as slow as this 2.1 van is up hills, I don't want to go any slower with the larger tire!

So: I'd like to keep the size same or smaller than what it is now, with a load rating of 99XL or above. 95% road miles with the occasional "what's down that dirt road?" or campground rambling. Non-directional/asymmetrical, as I'd like to be able to rotate to both sides and have a full-size spare to go into a modified clamshell (that could be used on either side of vehicle). I'm keeping the rim at 16" to fit over bigger brakes.

I've been looking high and low, and these are the only contenders that meet these requirements. I'm currently leaning toward the Vredestein, because of the all-weather, Mountain/Snowflake (3PMSF) rating, and the Nokian has been put on a lot of Vanagons with a generally favorable response until it gets off the road.

For those of you with 16" wheels who might have different criteria, I will also include my list of close seconds and tires that didn't make my cut (and reasons why in bold type).

The Contenders:


Vredestein Quatrac 5: 215/60R16 99H XL, 3PMSF , 26.2", 21 lbs. 794 rpm, UTQG:400AA, Asymmetrical, 6-8" wheel, $107/Tire Rack, Netherlands

Nokian eNTYRE: 215/60R 16 99H XL, 26.1", 25.6lb, 795rpm, UTQG: 700AA, Asymmetrical, 6-7.5" $90 small car performance (+shipping) Finland/Russia

Falken Ziex ZE950 A/S: 215/60R16 99V, XL, 26.2", 24.3 lbs, 808rpm (?), UTQG: 600AA, Asymmetrical, 6-7.5", $77 Tires Easy, Japan/USA?

Continental ContiProContact: 225/55R16 99H XL, 25.74", 22lbs. 807rpm, UTQG: 500AA, Non-Directional, 6-8". $143 Amazon/$156 tire rack. USA


*****

Close Seconds:

Nokian WRC3 205/65R16C 107 D, 3PMSF, 26.5" , 26.6lb, 786rpm,5.5-7.5", Directional, $161 tires easy,

Michelin Crossclimate+ 215/60R16 99V XL, 3PMSF, 26.1, 21 lbs. 797rpm, Directional, UTQG:600, $162 Tirerack, Italy

Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 215/60R16 99V XL, 26.1" 24lb, 811 rpm, 600AA, directional 6-7.5" wheel. $94/tire rack, Thailand

Achilles ATR sport 225/55R 16 99W, XL, 25.75", UTQG:400 27lb, Directional, $73 Amazon, Indonesia

Pirelli Cinturato P7 All season plus 215/55r16 XL 97H UTQG:700, 25.5" 21lb, 815rpm, $123 tirerack (closeout)

Hankook Ventus V2 Concept2 - SIZE: 215/55R16 97V XL,25.3" 22lbs, 798 rpm, UTQG:500 $87 tirerack

Goodyear Assurance Tripletread All season, 215/55R 97H XL, UTQG:740, 25.3" 26lb, 827 rpm, directional $153 tirerack

Michelin Defender LTX M/S 215/55R16 97H XL, 25.2" 25lb UTQG:720 823rpm $184 tirerack

****

Nope:

Nokian CLine Van 215/60R16C 103 D, 26.1"Dia, 24lb, Asymmetrical, Rim Width Range 6-7" (per Nokian).$153 amazon
Nokian CLine Van 195/65R16C 104/102 D, 3pmsf, 26", 26lbs, $140 amazon Rim Width Range 5.5-6.5 (per Nokian).
Nankang Cross-Sport All-Season SP-9 215/60R16 99V (not XL?) , 23.8lb, $52 amazon UTQG:560 directional, Taiwan, Fakespot review of Amazon reviews: F (manipulation)
Nokian eNTYRE 225/55 R 16 102, 26.6" 24.8lb, 700AA $84 Amazon
Nokian eNTYRE 205/60R16 96H XL, 25.7" Dia, 20.9lbs. UTQG: 700, Asymmetrical $85 small car performance
Nokian WRC3 215 65/r16: 27"Dia
Nokian Rotiva: Too large, Increased offroad performance, greater noise and tire wear
Michelin Defender T+H - SIZE: 215/60R16 95H, TW:820 $126 tirerack
Michelin X Tour A/S 95H
Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 215/60R16 95 SL, TW:600 $148 tirerack
Continental WinterContact SI Winter Radial Tire - 215/60R16 XL 99H 23.7lb Snow Tire
Continental CONTIPROCONTACT, 215/60R16 94T
Continental Vanco 2 215/65R16C. Too Large
Continental 4x4 Contact 215/65 R16 too large
Vredestein Comtrac Not available
Achilles Multivan 215/60 R16C, 108, 26.14", rim width 6-7"
Bridgestone Dueler 422 Ecopia 215/60 r16 95V
Falken Espia EPZ II 205/55R16XL 94T BSW Tires
Hankook Dynapro ATM RF10 Too large
Hankook i*Pike RW11 Too large
Nitto CrossTek 2 Too large
Sumitomo HTR A/S P02 215/60r16 95H
Toyo Versado Noir: Load rating too low or too large at desired load.
Toyo Open Country: 215/65/16 & 98H Too large:
Nokian Hakka Van : 215/65 R 16 C 109/107 Winter tire (770 rev/mi) & not for 7.5"

Vantropy Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:38 pm

D_Wal wrote: Any reason you donít have the WRC3 215/60/16 listed as an option?
Slightly smaller diameter than the 205/65/16

It seems like a really good option though it is pricey.


I stopped looking at other sizes of that tire when I found out it was directional, which was one of my criteria (for a non-directional or asymetrical tire that could be used as a rotatable spare). As a spare, it would probably be fine to run a directional tire backwards for 50 miles or whatever, so maybe this is an unfounded concern. It just means you can't do the 5-tire rotation, which was part of the idea. I do like that tire, it's the only light-truck tire on the list that comes close in size, and many users here report that the stiffness of the sidewalls really help with cornering. Maybe that's worth the $165 price tag...

dobryan Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:50 am

Vantropy wrote: D_Wal wrote: Any reason you donít have the WRC3 215/60/16 listed as an option?
Slightly smaller diameter than the 205/65/16

It seems like a really good option though it is pricey.


I stopped looking at other sizes of that tire when I found out it was directional, which was one of my criteria (for a non-directional or asymetrical tire that could be used as a rotatable spare). As a spare, it would probably be fine to run a directional tire backwards for 50 miles or whatever, so maybe this is an unfounded concern. It just means you can't do the 5-tire rotation, which was part of the idea. I do like that tire, it's the only light-truck tire on the list that comes close in size, and many users here report that the stiffness of the sidewalls really help with cornering. Maybe that's worth the $165 price tag...

My understanding of a directional tire is that the tread pattern is designed to be run in one direction for best traction especially in rain and snow. The tire itself is not harmed by being run backwards at all but since the traction will be different than the forward rolling tires it could cause an issue in bad weather... YMMV.

old_man Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:54 am

I just slapped on some Khumo Crugen HT51s. 102 load index and surprisingly economical for me up here. $115 CAD each here with a $60 rebate if I buy 4 which works out to about $100 CAD each.

Don't mind my amazing rim paint job.




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