| andk5591 |
Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:48 am |
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moto406 wrote: Would I need to use primer before the peal and seal? And what exactly is peal and seal? Some have mentioned you can get it at Home Depot
I posted this earlier on here
Quote: If you use a wire brush and its not too bad, don't use a real aggressive brush or you can actually eat through the metal some. I love the rustoeum rust convereter. Then rustoleum rusty metal primer, then their "professional" paint in rattle can or quart brush on.
Next I like using peal and seal instead of tarboard. Seals the metal from water from inside. Then business as usual after that.
Totally disagree about being able to let the floor dry out by pulling up the mat. The stock tarboard is not going to allow air to easily get under it to dry up water. As far as water getting in - yeah - could be bad seals - but ever leave a window open and then it rained? Stuff happens. And most of the cars I see anymore have carpet and padding. Both take a while to dry out, so keeping that moisture away from the metal is important to me.
Obviously you do whatever you want - I do what I feel will best suit my needs. And not having my feet go through the floor is one of my needs :lol: |
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| Hyperspace |
Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:01 am |
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Sometimes you gotta do, what you gotta do! |
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| Dwayne1m |
Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:42 pm |
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| How exactly is the tarboard supposed to help with rust? It doesn't cover the whole floor pan, at least not the ones I've seen. I figured it's job was for sound deadening and/or support. |
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| Dwayne1m |
Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:44 pm |
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Hyperspace wrote:
Sometimes you gotta do, what you gotta do!
I just had to do that to my 78 and I want to try and make sure I don't have to do it again. |
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| Hyperspace |
Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:52 pm |
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| Oh well my wife was nagging me about the wshing machine in the backyard... so, 2 problems solved. |
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| ROCKOROD71 |
Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:01 am |
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^^^nice! VW/Maytag hybrid, I like the Yankee ingenuity.
I have a weird problem regarding water getting on my floor boards. Several years back I got the floor and heater channels welded in, I was broke at the time and the guy who did it (I cannot weld) didn't remove the body from the pan. (that said it is a miracle and work of art that it came out like it did). Everything is solid but on a rainy day if I go through a puddle water gets in somewhere at the very front of the floor boards, on both sides. tried using a flashlight in a dark garage to see gaps but couldn't find any. Also went around the seams with silicone when I put the carpet in, but I believe there are large sections where the pan/body seal is either missing or badly disintegrated. Now I'm not about to dig into major bodywork on this, its my daily, but my thoughts are to rip out the carpet and padding (which is trapping moisture like an SOB) and just go with a rubber mat on the bare metal, that way after rain or whatnot I can lift up the mat and soak up the water and let it dry. I was wondering how much worse the road noise will be removing the padding and whatnot. I do stay up on rust prevention, about once a year removing the carpet and pads and sanding the surface rust back and painting. Any ideas where to look for the leak? My seals are in pretty good shape, and like I said, it comes from the front bulkhead area and slowly soaks the whole floor. Heinous, I know... |
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| andk5591 |
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:58 am |
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| This is not the best time of year to deal with this, but I would pull back the carpet and spray a hose around the pan/body joint to see if you can isolate it. |
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| unca waldo |
Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:36 pm |
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I have been... slowly... going though my '68 sedan and part of that process was to clean up the pans. There were no areas rusted through, but I did find quite a bit of uglyness under the "tar boards"... mostly in the recessed areas.
After hours spent with a coarse wire wheel on my drill, I got rid of any residual with "Jasco Prime and Prep". I painted it on with a cheap paint brush, let it sit and scrubbed any suspect areas with a small wire "toothbrush".
After 15 minutes or so, I rinsed it with fresh water and wiped it dry. I repeated the process on areas where the rust still showed in the pits.
The great thing about this product is... it seems to "pickle" the metal. It leaves the metal super clean, except for a fine, white dust that's easily wiped away. Best part is... the bare metal doesn't rust right away!
About 2 weeks later, after wiping the pans down with Pre-Cleano and a red 3M pad, I primed them with metal etch primer, shot 'em with Rustoleum bed liner and followed up with black Rustoleum Engine Paint.
That was about 6 months ago and other than being dusty, they look great.
BTW, I live about a mile from the beach, so I have to deal with lots of salt air...
Hope this helps ... |
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