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Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:14 pm

The normal spring is a locking device like a nut. It fits onto the Z bar end that has the groove in it.

Here you can see the thermostat linkage on the front of the fan shroud uses the same retaining spring.

Here is a bus pedal using same retaining spring.

Think the short pin goes in the base of the linkage arm where the image shows "B".

Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:55 pm

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Hmm, I've got a rhd car like this set up so no triangular bracket like the one in your pic
I guess the other end of the z bar goes into the hole in the accelerator shaft nit how does it stay there and there seems ti be nowhere for the pin to go.....

Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:20 am

I think you're perhaps over thinking this; I'll try and snap a pic of my linkage for you tomorrow...

Sun Apr 13, 2014 1:33 am

Thanks

Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:51 am

hi

right all going ok but got some more questions to ask-please remember this is a rhd car!

first... ive got a couple of issues with. the groove in the accelerator shaft that is supposed to house the circlip to hold the accelerator cable connecting lever in place is worn, so i cant get one on there. also, as you can see from

the shaft doesnt poke out from the lever enough to get one on anyway. the main pedal cluster mounting tube fits into the mounting tube bearing ok, so assembly is all square but im thinking maybe its in there too far, because the accerelator lever is hitting the end of it and therefore wont go in anymore? do i try to tap the tube out of the bearing slightly? i really dont want it to fall off inside as it was a pig to get in there.

following on from that, how can i get the lever to stay on? im worried it can just fall off at the moment.

lastly does anyone have any info on where to fit the brake stop and the accelerator hinge plate? obviously different on a rhd drive car but any info would be great

thanks

Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:25 am

Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:19 pm

Does anyone please know the answer for this?

Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:33 pm

Something's definitely wrong somewhere. Any chance you have the mounting plate the wrong way around? Not sure the big washers are helping the situation...

Should look like -

Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:57 pm

Yea its the wrong way round. Thanks
Hopefully that will sort it
I still can't find any info on pedal plate positioning for a rhd tho :(
Thanks

Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:08 pm

Is this a new floor pan? Position of brake pedal stop plate is determined by the two cams on the base of the pedals and the two holes in the floor directly behind the hole where the brake line enters the cabin. These mounting holes are shared by the pedal stop mounting plate and the assembly hold down bracket (stop plate goes underneath bracket). Accelerator bracket is welded to the floor but could be bolted on I'm sure.

Here's a pic of my floorpan when I was prepping it, you may find it useful.

Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:44 pm

Dangermouse wrote: Is this a new floor pan? Position of brake pedal stop plate is determined by the two cams on the base of the pedals and the two holes in the floor directly behind the hole where the brake line enters the cabin. These mounting holes are shared by the pedal stop mounting plate and the assembly hold down bracket (stop plate goes underneath bracket). Accelerator bracket is welded to the floor but could be bolted on I'm sure.

Here's a pic of my floorpan when I was prepping it, you may find it useful.

really?! how can the plate go in the same holes? there is a picture of the stop on the first page, if it goes into the same holes as the hold down bracket it wont stop anything as its not wide enough.

Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:43 pm

From your original pic -

Sits underneath the assembly thus, sharing the two mounting holes. The protrusions on the base of each pedal butt up against the nubs on the stop plate when the pedals are upright and the position of the stop plate determines the extent of pedal travel.

Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:49 pm

rusty60 wrote: Here a photo that helped me that I found, I had a replacement pan, had to weld the hole up that was pre drilled, I drilled new hole and welded nut below to get alignment similar to the pic. I also had to grind a little on the stop so it did not drag on the brake lever. Bottom line pedals position is what the stop sets.

On the below te one in your quote shows I also have the one in this photo, and another one. I wonder what they are for?!

Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:50 pm

Left hand drive vehicles methinks.

Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:07 pm

Thanks very much :)

Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:11 am

shocker of a day, loads of issues and dont really know how to resolve them. any help as usual would be really great, i cant find anything on these problems-doesnt say diddilysquat in the manuals.

firsly, i still cant get the circlip on the end after the accelerator lever. the lever is hitting the pedal shaft but surely the shaft has to sit in here to make it all sit square. its sitting about 4mm too far out at the moment, even if i knock the shaft out of the bearing 4mm, there wont be much of it left sitting in there.

here you can see with the lever off, where the shaft comes to and where the groove for the circlip is

here is where the lever sits.

secondly, with all the faffing about with it today-there is now play in the pedals left and right. here you can see there is a gap between the plate which bolts to the floor and the brake pedal. no idea why that is-wasnt there before.

about 1mm, enough to rattle and piss me off because its obviously not right.

thirdly, the stop for the clutch pedal fouls on the floor pan, before it hits the pedal stop.

forthly, i cant get the damn pedals to line up together, one is always more forward than the other.

not that this one is important at the mo, the others are more of a concern.

i have done everything the schematic says!

ARGH!!!!!!!!

HELP PLEASE :(

Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:38 pm

Time to take a breather, walk away from the car (before you set a match to it) and have a beer and a regroup :wink:

Working on that pedal assembly is a massive PITA, it's awkward, massively frustrating, uncomfortable and fiddley. And I'm guessing you didn't have the luxury of disassembling it yourself in the first place which makes reassembling it ten times harder. And you're correct, most of the manuals don't cover this in any detail and the internet just doesn't care about rhd problems :lol: Changing a clutch cable is my absolute least favourite job on my car!!

All these issues are likely related, something's not right still. It does all actually fit together nicely but all the correct bits need to be present.

I'm wondering if your accelerator arm is correct, it doesn't look quite right to me and if that's off it will affect everything else. I have a pic of mine around here somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it out...

Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:53 am

Hi
Thanks very much
I did deassemble it all but only half the bits were there, all the bits are present now apart from the concave washer which is to take up slack-I have the opposite problem. The accelerator arm is the same as the ones in the pictures on the first page and I haven't heard of or seen any alternatives. The play wasn't there before or at least i didn't notice it!

Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:32 pm

Any ideas anyone?

Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:07 pm

Well I guess if it all came apart then it all must go back together somehow.

In this pic -

is the lever pushed all the way home? It looks quite far out and as if the accelerator operating rod isn't aligned properly against the oval-shaped hole in the lever...

Don't know where the side play in the pedals has come from but suspect when everything is properly in position it'll be ok. The clutch pedal should not be contacting the floor pan though, is the stop plate in position under the bracket? Hard to tell from the pics but the stop plate will raise everything up by a couple of mm.

Don't worry about lining up the pedals until everything is properly secured and bolted in place; then it can take a bit of levering of the stop plate against the firewall with a big screwdriver to set the proper final position of the pedal stop plate. You know your brake pedal return spring isn't correctly set in those pics though, right? Again, just something to bear in mind on final assembly but not linked to your current issues...