TheSamba.com :: View topic - Official Oval Beetle Engine Finder Thread

Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:15 am

This thread is dedicated to finding the original engine for your vehicle or offering any Split Bug era engine cases that others may need.

Feel free to post the exact engine you need, if you know the number or anything you would like find in a range of numbers.
Examples:
Seeking engine 1400000
or
Seeking engine between 1350000 and 1360000
or
I have engine cases 1345456 and 1456789

If you see someone post an engine that you are interested in, please contact them directly via PM or email rather than posting in the thread.

Tue Jun 10, 2014 9:22 am

Seeking engine between 1666000 and 1666999

Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:49 pm

Looking for a 36hp engine close to 2523063 built August/September 1958, need not be running but rebuildable.

Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:25 pm

I hope some day to find an engine somewhere in the 1-0702 6** range.

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Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:20 am

I HAVE A May 1958 36hp engine case #2417162 FOR SALE HERE:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1626368

Im LOOKING FOR a June 1958 case to build, what do you have???

Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:24 am

Looking for May-June 1954

1-0778 135 TO 1-08818785 Range

Have Feb. 54 and Feb 57 to trade.

Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:39 pm

Looking for October 1955 engine between 1-1182 658 and 1-1213 907

Also looking for transmission from the same time frame: A-591 442 through A-619 979 or 564 870 through 570 531

Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:26 pm

Is there a way to tell exactly what engine number was in your car? I have the birth certificate. But it just says I have the wrong motor. Which I have an April 4th 57 car and think if I remember it's a June 57 motor.

Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:32 pm

Jrb572 wrote: Is there a way to tell exactly what engine number was in your car? I have the birth certificate. But it just says I have the wrong motor. Which I have an April 4th 57 car and think if I remember it's a June 57 motor.

hi Jrb572!

do you have the papers from your car? if so check them out, you will find your engine number in there! if you don't have papers, it's going to be difficult!

best regards

Steven

Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:32 am

All I have is the birth certificate. I'll take another look.

Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:46 am

I have a May 1955 case and crank: 1-1055545

Appears to still be standard case and crank.

UPDATE: This case was sold a while ago.

Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:45 am

vwsonmybrain wrote: I have an April 1955 case and crank: 1-1055545

Appears to still be standard case and crank.
1-1055545 is May 1955 I believe.

Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:00 pm

nlorntson wrote:
1-1055545 is May 1955 I believe.

You are correct, thanks. Updated my post. The sad thing is I double checked it this morning to make sure I was getting it within the correct month with the numbers on the charts falling at the end of the month. Obviously failed. :wink:

Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:21 pm

My birth certificate paper work only shows the motor number I sent them which is the incorrect motor.

Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:18 pm

I'm looking for a 59 engine from Apr/May between 2-943-920 and 2-996-628

I do have a complete 56 engine Mar/Apr with number 1-405-928. This engine is complete, turns over free by hand, has compression (should be rebuilt). 28 PCI carb, fuel pump and distributor with a Mann round mushroom top oil bath air cleaner 111-129-611E that I would be willing to trade for a similiar 59 engine.

Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:12 am

Jrb572 wrote: My birth certificate paper work only shows the motor number I sent them which is the incorrect motor.
can you post a pic of your certificate? Ive been curious to see how they print it when you tell them your engine number and its the wrong one. hopefully they just put the number you provided and wrote an accompanying letter stating its the wrong engine, instead of writing wrong engine on birth certificate itself. id love to see what yours says!!!!!

Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:18 am

GüteAndTite wrote: Jrb572 wrote: My birth certificate paper work only shows the motor number I sent them which is the incorrect motor.
can you post a pic of your certificate? Ive been curious to see how they print it when you tell them your engine number and its the wrong one. hopefully they just put the number you provided and wrote an accompanying letter stating its the wrong engine, instead of writing wrong engine on birth certificate itself. id love to see what yours says!!!!!

Who knows what the museum does at this point (or from one case to the next). Here is flyertim's BC - pretty extensive and the engine info is on a separate letter.

Jrb572 - as to your issue, even knowing the engine #, it's almost certainly toast. But if you so desire you can pretty much figure out a very small range of possible numbers. The factory was on a 2 shift 5 day work schedule. Take the last engine # for June & subtract the last # for may. Find the number of work days for June of that year. Divide the total engines by those days and multiple by the number of work days from the start f the month until when your car was built. There you have it a range of about 3000 engine #s.

Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:25 am

I have a June 54 short block serial number 1-0800834. Located in MD, USA. I'll put it up in the classifieds.

Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:08 am

*Darren wrote: GüteAndTite wrote: Jrb572 wrote: My birth certificate paper work only shows the motor number I sent them which is the incorrect motor.
can you post a pic of your certificate? Ive been curious to see how they print it when you tell them your engine number and its the wrong one. hopefully they just put the number you provided and wrote an accompanying letter stating its the wrong engine, instead of writing wrong engine on birth certificate itself. id love to see what yours says!!!!!

Who knows what the museum does at this point (or from one case to the next). Here is flyertim's BC - pretty extensive and the engine info is on a separate letter.

Jrb572 - as to your issue, even knowing the engine #, it's almost certainly toast. But if you so desire you can pretty much figure out a very small range of possible numbers. The factory was on a 2 shift 5 day work schedule. Take the last engine # for June & subtract the last # for may. Find the number of work days for June of that year. Divide the total engines by those days and multiple by the number of work days from the start f the month until when your car was built. There you have it a range of about 3000 engine #s.

What a weird birth certificate: a 6V battery and a 12 volt system (which would be standard??)? And dual-circuit brake system? All on an oval era car? Something smells funny here...
Who the heck composes these birth certificates at the Stiftung Automuseum VW? Regular desk clerks? And there are disclaimers all over, wow!
Weird, right?

Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:14 am

For combination codes like 350 the factory lists everything that was included when 350 was last used (example: 1967). So it can list things that do not apply to earlier vehicles.

I would be surprised if they knew exactly what 350 included for each year.